Category talk:Military equipment

Anyone else think there's some definite overlap between this and Category: Weapons?

If so, should one of these be a subset of the other? Oberiko 00:36, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Weapons are now under "Military equipment by type."

Hierarchy

Since this is essentially the root of all military related technology, I'm going to propose a hierarchy here.

We should have three main sorting criteria: era, type and nationality.

Era

The eras I suggest are similar to those used on the weapons page: (Note: added period boundaries - eras include bookend time around the specific event that may have given the era its name. Joshbaumgartner 02:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC))

• Ancient (all weapons up to the Middle Ages)
• Middle Ages
  • Can cover all from the fall of Rome up to the Age of Exploration.
• Age of Exploration (mostly naval)
  • Covers the 16th Century
• Age of Sail (ships only)
  • Only for classification of ships, due to their unique development path. Covers from the beginning of the 17th Century through the middle of the 19th Century.
• Victorian Age
  • Era covers the second half of the 19th Century
• World War I
  • Generally from the beginning of the 20th Century through the end of World War I (1900-1919)
• Interwar period (Aircraft only)
  • Only aircraft had enough development to warrant seperating this out, covers aircraft developed after World War I but which weren't part of World War II.
• World War II
  • For most, anything from after World War I through the end of World War II (1920-1945), for aircraft maybe not those of the Interwar Period.
• Cold War
  • Everything from after WWII through the end of the Cold War (1945-1990)
• Modern
  • Everything from the end of the Cold War through today (1990-Present)
• Future
  • Planned, proposed, and hypothetical items.

We can place specific conflicts within the various eras: Vietnam military equipment would be a subcategory of Cold War military equipment etc.

Additional periods can be created to fit the needs of the specific country and/or type of equipment. Joshbaumgartner 02:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Type

Our main types would differ somewhat according to the era, but I think the main types would be:

• Vehicles
  • Armored fighting vehicles
• Naval ships
• Aircraft
• Personal equipment
• Space equipment
• Weapons ¹

1 - Weapons includes the following: Guns, bombs, missiles etc. There is thus some overlap with personal equipment and weapons.

The type list will undoubtedly get larger, but I think we can subcategorize mostly within those boundries. Oberiko 16:37, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

In Defense of My Putting "Tomahawk" in this Category

The page on Tomahawk says it was used as a melee weapon during Vietnam, and is now used sometimes in Iraq for breaking down doors and fighting once inside.

Military Systems

Ok, so I am totally confused as to where to put military systems like ABCS and FBCB2. These two systems are Battle Command related and they do not quite fit into the Category:Military electronics or any other category besides Category:Military equipment. Are ABCS and FBCB2 weapons? Yes, but not in the traditional sense.

The categorization being used does not take into account the current organizational method of system/sub-system and mounting/un-mounting as in the case of mounting/un-mounting sensors into a vehicle. Honestly, I do not think that the implication of "serving to equip" in the word "equipment" is of benefit to categorization. I really believe that "system" is a much better word.

Furthermore, the Wikipedia Commons categorization does not seem to mirror at all the categorization used here.

What do y'all propose that I do? Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.

Sidna (talk) 14:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)