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Fringe-status - current state and future directions

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It is now suggested by Wikipedia-editors that Transpersonal psychology is a fringe-discipline, and that this was not clearly elucidated in the article prior to january 18, 2023. The article is now re-edited, by other editors, with this elucidation in mind, keeping most of the clarifications that were already in place. Although I can can appreciate the mid-january edit based on WP-policies and guidelines posted to this Talk (see above), I must note, in all fairness, that except for a few reformulations, no new text is contributed! Including the two sources noting the fringe-status of TP (Hilgard and Adams), the mid-january edit keeps most of the skeptical and critical considerations of transpersonal psychology, even removing a few of them (Alexander, Gray and Schneider). I am familiar with these skeptical and critical sources, as I contributed most of them in the years prior to the latest re-edit.

However, if Transpersonal psychology is now going to be conceptualized and elucidated as a fringe discipline in the mind of the public, which I understand is the consensus of the mid-january revisions, then it would be preferable that this categorization was supported by more sources than the few already in place. As I understand it, the new sources have to be first-rate. I therefore welcome new contributions that can elaborate upon the fringe-status of Transpersonal psychology and its relationship to the world of mainstream psychology. Best regards! --Hawol (talk) 17:47, 28 January 2023 (UTC)--Hawol (talk) 01:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Psychology Capstone

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 May 2024 and 12 August 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Sydrgalloway (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Kacart98, Zclayt, Sarahmoran683, Dennyslimon10, Lmn23.

— Assignment last updated by Rahneli (talk) 23:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roots prior to the 1960s counterculture per se

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I’m not sure how this sentence (near the top of the article) concerning the beginnings of transpersonal psychology squares with some earlier, and I'd think separate, roots for it than what we think of as “the counterculture of the 1960s.”

Both humanistic and transpersonal psychology have been associated with the Human Potential Movement, which revolves around alternative therapies and philosophies that grew out of the counter-culture of the 1960s at places such as Esalen, California.

Gerald Heard was lecturing in the mid 1950s concerning non-sectarian spiritual human potentials (Myron Stolaroff was one listener who became influential a few years later). By 1960 Aldous Huxley was giving lectures at colleges (including MIT) about what he termed “human potentialities.” But I don’t think either of them (or Stolaroff, for that matter) knew or believed he was initiating a counter culture. Both Heard and Huxley were influential with the founders of Esalen. Pretty much the same story with the Czech psychiatrist Stanislav Grof, who did not emerge from the American counterculture.

By "associating" transpersonal psychology with the counterculture, is there an intention to portray it as something on the fringe of the field of psychology?Joel Russ (talk) 20:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Joel Russ: It does seem like that was some editor's intent. I've rewritten the sentence to be more factual without the editorializing. Skyerise (talk) 21:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You might also be interested in reviving material from this old version of the article, which was removed by the same editors responsible for that sentence. I've had to restore such material in other articles, deleted simply due to the bias of the editor who removes it - complaining it is sourced only to primary sources but without searching for secondary sources, which most certainly exist. Skyerise (talk) 21:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article lacks a core definition

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I read this entire article, which is quite long, and I still have no real idea what transpersonal psychology actually is. There doesn't seem to be a clear definition or explanation of what it is, what it encompasses, and what its fundamental beliefs and principles are. Ianhowlett (talk) 23:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Psychology Capstone

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This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 26 August 2024 and 6 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Carolinedean31 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Carolinedean31 (talk) 12:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]