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Hammond Innes's Atlantic Fury

Just read the Kindle edition of this book. The novel clearly states that the two ships caught in the storm are LCTs and not LSTs. Also, the description of the ships with uncovered tank decks fits LCTs. I propose this book description be moved from this article to the LCT article. Thoughts? Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 09:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, moved. Thanks! Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 03:04, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"This enabled amphibious assaults on almost any beach."

This description of LST use in the lede paragraph is highly misleading. As stated in the Landing Craft Air Cushion article, "Due to its tremendous over-the-beach capability, the LCAC can access more than 80% of the world's coastlines...Previously, landing craft had a top speed of approximately eight knots (15 km/h; 9.2 mph) and could cross only 17% of the world's beach area".

While this quote states 'craft', the number for LSTs was similar.

Thoughts?Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 20:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Newport Class is not mentioned

The Newport class has it's own page, as do each of the ships. I don't know how to add a box on the right side of the page. Jtmilesmmr (talk) 20:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 August 2024

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– The military likes to list things by major category first, followed by modifier. The normal English way of referring to these things is actually more common in independent sources (some in all sources), and is more recognizable to most non-military readers than the backwards way that the military likes for list alphabetizing. None of these are proper names, as evidenced by frequent lowercase usage in sources. Example, from a Life magazine photo caption in 1943: "Boat is an infantry landing craft, carrying about 200 men. Offshore is tank landing ship." Another, from British War Production, H.M. Stationery Office, 1952: "It was, however, the tank landing craft, not the tank landing ship, that was to form the backbone of the British programmes of 1942 and 1943." I will add book n-gram stats for each, to compare both word order and case. Dicklyon (talk) 22:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note – Several of these were reverted after my bold moves, so now we discuss. I have checked book usage stats on each, and compiled these comparisons, where both the case and word order can be compared. Some are much more common with lowercase and normal word order (e.g. tank landing craft), but in others the capitalized modifier-last order is somewhat more common (e.g. Landing Craft Infantry). It's still better to adopt the "English" over the "military" phrasing, for recognizability to the typical reader.
Tank (ship)
Tank (craft)
Infantry
Assault
Mechanized
Utility
Support
Dicklyon (talk) 22:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]