User talk:DmitryKo
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[edit]Hi DmitryKo, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!
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- Mailer Diablo 09:44, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
WP:RM
[edit]Please lay out your "Requested moves" in the recommended format WP:RM#What to do on this Requested moves page --Philip Baird Shearer 14:46, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Bulganin
[edit]Wikipedia, along with most English sources, uses the form Nikolai not Nikolay. Adam 22:53, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- It's still the same first name. I believe it's better to stick with Transliteration of Russian into English, so people don't get confused with various transliterations of the past, and mention alternative names in the intro (see Stalin and Gorbachev).
- As long as there are redirects from Nikolai Bulganin to Nikolay Bulganin, anyone is free to link either name, because they are both phonetically correct (although Nikolay is the preferred form). In any way, he is best known simply as Bulganin and there are no other notable people who go by the same family name. But feel free to add Nikolai' as an alternative name to the intro if you think it would be useful.
- As a side note, if you search Mao Zedong on the IMDB, you'll find a confusing Tse-tung Mao entry; however, it's still a correct Westernized rendition of a Chinese name. DmitryKo 07:35, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The standard English form is Nikolai not Nikolay (Google them both and see). I will continue to revert this change. Adam 11:52, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Whatever. DmitryKo 11:59, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Just leave the article alone and you won't go on creating problems. Adam 12:16, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
This is really very simple. Wikipedia is an English-language encyclopaedia. The standard English transliteration of Николай is Nikolai. Therefore that is what Wikipedia should use. If you don't like it, go and edit something else and stop behaving like a child. Adam 12:40, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
To know the standard transliteration of a Russian name it is necessary to know English, not Russian. The standard English transliteration of Николай is Nikolai. You can be sarcastic about Google if you like but it is in fact the best way of determining the standard. The Aleksandr / Alexander choice is more complex because Alexander is an English name as well as a Russian one, whereas Nikolai is not (the English form being Nicholas). I would prefer Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn but I would not object to Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Adam 01:51, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Alexander is an English name of Greek origin, but that's not the point. The point is that it is a common English name, and therefore is commonly used in place of the more Russian-looking spelling Aleksandr.
- "There wasn't any 'standard transliteration' up until 1970s." Even if that's true, there is now. In earlier times the tendency was much more to render names into the English form (Peter Tchaikovsky for example).
- "By Google, both Sergei and Sergey are acceptable for Сергей, but Nikolai should be preferred over Nikolay for Николай. Why, if the ending vowel is the same Short I?" I didn't this situation was logical, I just said what the stanard usage is. I prefer Sergei but I agree that Sergey is also common, much more common than Nikolay. Adam 13:07, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Russian subdivisions
[edit]Hi, Dmitry! I responded to your comments here.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 14:14, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
WWII Ranks
[edit]Excellent work on this page Dimitry. I have readded the distinction between just two ranks in the Japanese forces (Taisa and Taii are respectively Daisa and Daii in the navy) The only thing that is bugging me is the equivalence of Russian subaltern officers. From other (non Wiki) sources, a western second lieutenant is usually a fairly brief phase after gaining a commission, after which it would be a rarity not to be promoted. I would imagine this is the same as a Russian junior lieutenant and that the regular/senior grades are therefore both equivalent to a (first)lieutentant in the west and that the division would only be of consequence in the Russian military (or defined by role if ever a joint campaign were to take place with a western army). Your thoughts would be appreciated. Dainamo 09:49, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Gasoline Direct Injection Engine
[edit]You contribution to this article is great. But I doubt abt the three modes of combustion. According to Mitsubishi site there are just two different modes of combustion (Ultra Lean Mode and the Superior Output Mode)[1]. I believe the stoichiomeric mode and full power modes can be merged into one as the time of injection is same and the difference lies only in the air fuel ratio.Gaurav1146 14:22, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Stubsensor/stub article reply
[edit]Hi Dmitry, you left a comment on the stubsensor page. I believe we are trying to address the same problem. I hope you would read my reply and leave your thoughts back on the original page. Here is a copy of my reply for your convenience:
I believe you are correct in trying to address that problem. Articles that don't appear to be stubs but are missing information should be labeled as such however I don't think the stub tag is the right one. In this case it makes more sense to use the {{expand}} template. Instead of leaving a stub tag which conveys little information the expand tag specifically asks for information regarding expansion to be listed on the talk page. This way the shortcoming is known and a possible fix is present. Now anyone who wants to research the information can help. When the article is left marked only as a stub what needs to be done to correct it is not readily apparent. Triddle 18:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
Tones on articles
[edit]What gives? Why are you adopting such a nasty tone on the Fleet Admiral of the Russian Federation article? Your source is not question, I was only giving you mine. No need to take it personal and start throwing insults. -Husnock 23:32, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
- I'm actually leaning towards your sources. It just seems very strange no more 5 star naval rank. if the article does get deleted, one on the four star fleet admiral should be created. I ask for clarification on the burning question here: If Russia became involvoed in a major war would they create a five star rank? I think thats what the U.S Amry was getting at when they published the rank chart. Sorry if I was harsh up above, it just sounded like you were slamming my source as something made up when it fact it comes form an offical publication. -Husnock 23:47, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
- My question is if there is no such rank, then why can shoulder boards can be found online: http://www.tridentmilitary.com/New-photos16/radsb23.jpg. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 03:34, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Husnock, Zscout370, please see my responses on the corresponding talk page. -DmitryKo 09:02, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
- It was a hot topic, I think people saw that. Have no fear, your knowledge of Russian ranks is extremely impressive. Are you from there? I've heard tales of the Russian Navy in Vladivostok in that ships lie abandoed with parts on the piers and the Russian mafia is selling old submarines to the highest bidder. That was in 1999 and I'm sure most of it was U.S. sailors making stuff up! Anyway, the Russian military ranks article can be fine tuned and expanded. Look forward to butting heads about it in the future. -Husnock 04:53, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
GM Daewoo
[edit]I don't appreciate your tone. If you read up at WikiProject: Automobiles, it is agreed that these articles should not be biased toward any one nation. Where there are conflicting issues with car types, it is also agreed that the situation of the home country, in this case, Korea, should be adopted. I am reverting your reverts. Granted, I made a lousy job of shifting because I have not been here for a while, but your failure to check your facts is unacceptable. I suggest verifying with www.autoindex.org. For instance, in Korea, the Nubira was discontinued with the introduction of the Lacetti. Just because where you are, the Nubira name may have continued, does not mean that is the case everywhere.
Check around other parts of Wikipedia and you will see this convention, by and large, has been adopted. To make an exception just for your pages is ridiculous. Stombs 12:08, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not discussing the validity of the move yet. Your edits were reverted because copy and paste is just not the right way to perform the move, as it erases the edit history and makes editing process troublesome.
- As for the Nubira sedan, both the car and the name are not discontinued on the international market. You chose to ignore that fact and then started a rewrite on the topic that was already well established. All you needed to do is to mention that on the local Korean market, the Nubira name is not used for the J200 sedan anymore OR the sedan itself is not sold on the Korean market anymore, whatever the facts are. Failing to mention that the sedan is still sold internationally only means that we'd have to spawn a bunch of two-line articles that serve the only purpose of linking many local names with the original Korean one (see Talk:Chevrolet Nubira#Daewoo or Chevrolet?.
- --DmitryKo 14:31, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Strombs, Dmitry has a point. The current model, J200, is known under a variety of names. For instance, in my home country of the United States, J200 is known as the Suzuki Forenza. J200 is the newest, design-wise, of three GMDAT models that GM introduced to America. They are:
- Chevrolet Aveo
- Chevrolet Optra (Canada)/Suzuki Forenza
- Chevrolet Epica (Canada)/Suzuki Verona
The Aveo will probably be replaced by the Daewoo Gentra but retain the Chevy name in North America. The Epica/Verona will be replaced by the Daewoo Tosca.
Naming conventions, I think, are hard to implement, especially since there are so many names and so many models that although might've been discontinued in a manufacturer's home market are still being produced. For instance, the Daewoo Lanos is still sold in some countries, even though they have been discontinued. In fact,there is a Chevrolet Lanos sold in Russia. (See Chevy Russia's hompage (in Russian) for more details.) Or how's this: Strombs, you allude to the Nubira being discontinued with the arrival of the Lacetti. Yet in some countries the Nubira is still produced/sold, though considering that GMDAT wants to start everything fresh, I would doubt how long the Nubira will last. In fact, in some countries where the Chevrolet nameplate has supplanted the Daewoo nameplate, the Lacetti is still sold as the Nubira. In other countries, such as in Canada, Saudi Arabia, India, and South Africa, the Lacetti is sold as the Optra. I don't think it's biased, it's just what the marketing people came up with. Daniel Blanchette 01:05, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Dmitry, wondering about something
[edit]Hi Dmitry, remember me? I'm the same person who's "DanCBJMS1988" on GMI. What's new? Hey, I was thinking, if GMI doesn't have a page, maybe there should be one? If you have a chance to go on the GMI webpage, PM me. I'll try to make a suggestion on GMI.DanCBJMS, 22:07 EDT, Tuesday, 11 October, 2005; 02:07 GMT, Wednesday, 12 October, 2005
- Hi Dan, and welcome to Wikipedia! ;) I'm not sure if GMI needs to have its own article, I need to take a look at Category:Websites first, but you can always post a link in General Motors article if you feel the need to. See also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion. --DmitryKo 10:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
- Hi again, sorry to disturb you, but currently I'll be working on a WikiProject regarding the Soviet Union. Since you know more about Soviet automobiles than me, you could easily be an asset to the project. Daniel Blanchette 00:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Russian military ranks.
[edit]High there! Regarding your question on my talkpage I think we should go for mediation, but I don't how it works on wikipedia :( --DimaY2K 19:08, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- How about starting a new article. Something like, "REAL Russian military ranks".
--DimaY2K 12:17, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- O boy, the ranks on Comparative military ranks also have been changed. --DimaY2K 12:21, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
1.Насчёт Лейб-Гвардии вы правыю 2.Если эта таблица охватывает такой большой период, за который произошло много изменений и перемещений званий с одного класса в другой, то да надо указывать эти зания и время их действия. 3.Ундер-лейтенант во флоте согласно Еремееву существовал с 1920 по 1924 год. Еремееву я полностью доверяю, такую подробную статью про армию и про что с ней связанно (настоящия анатомия армии!) на русском языке ещё ни кто не написал. 4.Моя ошибка была-включение йомена в этот список, но написал я его правильно: йомен, а не ёмен- именно так написано в Большой Российской Энциклопедии и в Большом Российском Энциклопедическом словаре. Ланцер-судя по ним тяжёло вооружённый улан. 5. По поводу предъидущего спора по позициям званий, то в должностном ракурсе вы правы, но по зквивалентности званий нет. Воинская должность и воинское звание это не одно и тоже и часто не совпадают, особенно в НАТО и в США. В большинств армий где есть бригадный генерал нет звания генерал-полковник и последние звание перед полным генералом идёт генерал-лейтенант. И вообще эквивалентность званий одной страны к другой вопрос спорный, так как система кодировки званий OF-1 - OF-10, создавалась только для обьединённого командования стран НАТО и была заимствованна от Pay grades США и даже приравнивать звания внутри НАТО не так просто, а сравнивать звания стран не входящих в него можно чисто теоретически. С уважением --Roitr 00:11, 16 November 2005
- Is there any progress on mediation? --DimaY2K 17:19, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi! I have no idea why the admins from UK delete the Soviet Marshals of specific arms and Chief marshals, which I added in the Comparative military ranks of World War II page. They also delete the highest SS rank and place Himmler to be the same rank as Generalissimo, above the Marshal of the Soviet Union. I plan to start the meditation process and ask you to participate. Thank you.--Nixer 06:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Re:Russian translations
[edit]Okay, you're right. I have noticed they are pretty bad when they go from Spanish to English - it is foolish for me to think that it'd be any better from Russian to English. I want to learn more languages, so I may stumble into Russian sooner or late...I want to learn French as a fourth language now. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:27, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Re:Roitr aka Tt1
[edit]... has been trashing Russian military ranks with his nonsensual edits, so your copyedit at Military ranks of the Soviet Union is suffering from the same problem, as you already found out. I've been trying to stop him, but I just don't have the time or desire to engage in an edit war, which is inevitable because he doesn't listen to complains. DimaY2K has been trying to reason with him, but backed off as well - I guess he just has some important things to do, besides reverting edits of a Russian-speaking teenager with very bad English skills, way too much free Internet time and apparently no Soviet military service record, and so do I... So, whatever means should be taken to stop Roitr/Tt1 and his bots and unwind his destructive edits, I'm sure both me and User:DimaY2K will fully support it.
PS. It looks like you had to seek help from a fellow admin in order to ban Roitr... I guess Wikipedia policy is not working well here, because I tried to bring this issue to the attention of the community but it just didn't worked (or maybe I misplaced my distress call. I wonder what will be your supposed course of actions here? --DmitryKo 22:46, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- I must confess one thing: he was right about the Marshal of the Soviet Union and Generalissimo dates - however, his absolute disregard pleas from several editors has pretty much pissed me off. I mean, I have made mistakes in articles, but I never blindly reverted content back to the wrong thing to fit my whims - I don't understand this Roitr guy. He thinks that these ranks should fit his needs/satisfaction. The result of this has been horrendous. I recently tried to report him WP:AN/I (found under the subtitle 'User:Roitr') but even THAT did nothing - I have found out that no one cares - making me not care. Do you believe his audacity? He came up to me to talk about my bad Russian skills and how I need to go to a library to look this stuff up - I could'nt believe it. I wound up putting a {{disputed}} tag to the article because of him. I don't know what is right or wrong, and I strongly suggest that all the articles they have been known to edit be corrected and put under heavy surveillance in the future.
- My course of action? I have none, I reported them (and several of there IPs) to both Vandalism in progress and the WP:AN/I - nothing has come from those. I am not an admin. so I am not able to use sysop powers to block them off at long last. But then there is another problem: he uses apparent open proxy IPs - all of which (and for both Roitr and Tt1, I mean) come from the 80 range and are usually from Israel. So, what can we do? I actually feel defeated by this menace - the truth is I would be lying if I said I cared about now. I alerted SEVERAL people all MANY occasions about the guy - my advice now is that we put this in the hands of the admins. like Husnock and Howcheng that were keeping an eye on the guy. Thanks for giving this message, I am happy that someone finally saw the kind of crap this guy was putting on the encyclopedia. The problem would be finding someone to do something about it.
- P.S. Sorry about not Wikifying this message better - if you have trouble finding anything, I'll be more than happy to point it out. Take care, εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 23:21, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- I think we are dealing with someone who is a chronic edit war vandal causing these edit wars on purpose. Also, this person sees nothing wrong at all with using multiple user IDs and anon IP addresses as sockpuppets to circumvent the Three Revert Rule and other blocks. See my talk page for further details. -Husnock 21:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Nixer
[edit]- Well, something needs to happen (this statement was made regarding your last comment regarding patent nonsense) :-) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 21:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- Come to think of it, both Nixer and Roitr registered accounts around the same time (late August, 2005) and have been attacking the same pages - I don't believe what I am finding. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 21:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- It is prohibited to register accounts at the same month? What do I see? Removing the Tt1's delirium is now considered being a Tt1 sockpuppet! Very well!--Nixer 11:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Re:Arb Com
[edit]Maybe that would work against Roitr/Tt1/Nixer, however, I doubt that this would do anything, as I have seen pure apathy on the part of admins. at WP:AN/I - but I guess people have better things to do with their lives than clean up a plate of overturned spaghetti by a toddler! εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 15:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Re trolls
[edit]Who is this Nixer/Roitr/Tt1/Alexr23/(multiple IPs) and what does he/she(/it) want? He's been trolling Military rank tables for weeks now and I'm sick of it. Do you think it's time for an RfC? Latinus 22:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Will be keeping an eye out for the sockpuppetter for the ranks pages --Aldis90
- Need some help dealing with malicious editor (roitr) --Aldis90
Победа
[edit]Yay! Tt1 and other sockpuppets of Roitr have been blocked. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 22:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Not for long I suppose. For comparison I for ramoving the Tt1's delirium was blocked for a half a week.--Nixer 11:46, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi, look I'm not going to chase him. Just give me the list of affected articles so that I can put them on my watchlist and keep an eye on them. --Latinus 17:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
- Oh no. I think a watchpage should be made - like in the case of permabanned Bonaparte. He uses socks a lot and a log of his socks is kept at User:Bonaparte/sockpuppetry enabling people to keep an eye on their contributions. --Latinus 17:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Image:Chevrolet Aveo T250.jpg listed for deletion
[edit]- Slo-mo 04:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I've locked this page from being created again. The only way to stop a sockpuppet from doing this otherwise would have been to continually ban each new account, but this may serve as a better measure. Thanks for your work watching for junk in the new creations. Harro5 00:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
IP socks of Roitr?
[edit]Sorry to interrupt, but what method are you using to tag all of those suspected IP socks? JDoorjam Talk 04:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- Easy - I was just making a per-article comparisons of their respective contribution with edits made by Roitr (talk · contribs)/Tt1 (talk · contribs)/Alexr23 (talk · contribs) and Markdanil (talk · contribs)/Sergeybakh (talk · contribs). Their edits are the same up to the last byte (he probably keeps text files on his hard drive, because his edits are always reverted). --DmitryKo 04:18, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- That level of Wikisleuthing is pretty intense, man. Kudos. JDoorjam Talk 04:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. It should have been done way earlier, I've been actually following this guy since last December because he nearly destroyed my favourite articles, but I just didn't think he's been using so many socks... --DmitryKo 04:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- Re: your report on WP:RFI about suspected Roitr socks: I'll leave that were it is for now until the checkuser comes back. From the above it looks like you've done some good work on this, so it should only need you to get the attention of an admin to administer the blocks, once the checkuser proof is through. Might as well post the update on RFI, but you might have to ask an admin personally to get quick attention (or I'll give a yell on IRC if needed). Petros471 21:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Polkovnyk
[edit]If you put a tag you have to explain you reasons on the talk page. The tag added without explanation will be removed.--AndriyK 14:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- There's already a section on the talk page, and it's pretty self-explanatory. But of course you are free treat me like another "Russian chauvinistic POV-pusher" and engage in revert warring. --DmitryKo 16:00, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Did you read the section you refer to?--AndriyK 16:29, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
And what? Are you in hurry?--AndriyK 17:25, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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Roitr
[edit]Hi! Can you please revert the last changes of Roitr as I am on limit of 3RR? For example, consider please these articles: Air force officer ranks, Army officer ranks, Naval officer ranks.--Nixer 14:35, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Misleading info
[edit]Под Misleading info я подразумевал вот это: [2], где он писал, что возвращает к твоей версии (а на самом деле - наоборот). Поэтому я специально сделал пометку напротив этого аккаунта.--Nixer 14:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- Я это просто повыше убрал, чтобы не загромождать информацией - всегда можно посмотреть в Contributions, что именно он там наворотил ;) --DmitryKo 14:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Uyrik
[edit]He re-uploaded the same deleted images as Roitr and his history is empty because all these images were deleted again.--Nixer 09:24, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
FSO
[edit]OK, FSO article updated. Now, could you take a look at it and Wikify it more professionally? We also need to have get all the AvtoZAZ, UkrAVTO, Lanos, Sens and GM DAT stuff in order - perhaps you can shed light on those? Bravada 11:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- We hear thee speak, User:Roitr/the sockpuppeter. You will not prevail! --Dmitry 15:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Мне не надо prevail, мне надо справедливость. Нарушение вами правил очевидно и вы их нарушили гораздо больше чем Roitr. Я не Roitr sockpuppeter, но меня не волнует что ты думаешь по другому. Я за тобой наблюдал долго, как и за Никсером. В моих словах много общего с вашими подозреваемыми, потому что я хорошо изучил их историю вправок, как впрочем и вашу. Ты такой же наглец и нарушитель правил, как и он и вы поёте одну и туже песни. Можите в двоём продолжать её петь и это ни к чему не приведёт и война будет продолжаться вечно. Всех несогласних с вами не заблокируешь - живот лопнет. Глухой тот кто нехочет слышать, слепой - кто не хочет видеть и немой - тот кто отказывается везти диалог и приходить к компромиссу. Я вижу ты добавил меня Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Roitr и написал "Adding fake votes to long closed votings". Ты сам подтвердил что дискуссия (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Air_Force_ranks_and_insignia_of_the_Russian_Federation)- закрыта и там было принято оставить главного маршала, так что ты сам подтвердил что нарушил вмести с Никсером правило о форуме и обсуждениях. На Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Roitr многие подозреваемые признаны как Roitr socks, но там нет не единого доказательства подтверждающего это обвинение. Одинаковые статьи и не согласие с вами - это не повод. --Fokster 17:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- User:Roitr, why should I compromise over obvious errors you are inserting despite multiple previous attempts to reason with you? It seems you either can't read plain Russian, save English, or simply trying to make fools of others, because the sources you cite don't confirm your own point in any way (including the links above).
- Let's make it clear: you were blocked for WP:3RR violation and edit warring, and using WP:SOCKs to evade block is strongly prohibited. Since most of your suspected socks are already WP:BLOCKed by various different admins, I guess this is highly indicative they agree with the evidence Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Roitr presented by User:Nixer, yours truly and others.
- And if you really tried to obey the Wikirules, you would change your attitude and refer to WP:BLOCK#If you disagree with a block instead of creating multiple sockpuppet accounts. --Dmitry 18:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Еще раз повторю что я не Roitr. Я в своих версиях пытаюсь исправить ошибки и ложные данные предоставленные им и вами. Подпрапорщики и Боцман - не звания нынешней России и вы в этом правы. Но насчёт званий Маршала авиации и Адмирала флота не совсем правы. Да эти звания никому не присваивались и они чисто теоретические.Но игнорировать их нельзя и их следует указывать. О них написано в сайтах о званиях и их никто не выдумал. Я читал объяснения о них которые написал Дувдевак и они мне кажутся убедительными. Это вполне логично что эти звания могли быть разработаны отделом тыла и геральдической комиссией. Так же ты пишешь что его и других ссылки не доказывают правату, но это не верно и в большинстве случаях, хотя и не всегда, их ссылки подтверждают их доводы. А вот твои не всегда или ты и Никсер не приводите вообще ни каких довадов. Например о том что Маршал РФ разные сайты пишут по разному в одном он главний для всех http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:rzwlsJZVECQJ:wbase.duma.gov.ru/ntc/vdoc.asp%3Fkl%3D4488++28+%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B0+1998+%D0%B3.+N+53-%D0%A4%D0%97+%22%D0%9E+%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8F%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8+%D0%B8+%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9+%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B1%D0%B5%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3, а в других только для общевойсковых званий http://www.soldiering.ru/other/regulations/russia/vnutr/html05.php. Они не лгали как вы видете. Ещё о том что было решено оставить Гл.маршала авиации, но вы их игнорировали. Ведь для честности звание маршал РФ сейчас тоже можно сказать теоретическое и высшим общевойсковым званием сейчас в России является генерал армии. Так же об эквивалентности званий России и НАТО ты и Никсер показали то что не имеете ни одного официального источника подтверждающего вашу правату - и все кого вы обвиняете говорили вам это. В их ссылке предоставленной для вас http://www.baseclass.modulweb.dk/69giap/179.0.html (официальный сайт 69 гвардейского истребительног авиационного полка) сказанно что генерал-майор России равен Brigadier General USAAF и это ещё раз подтверждает что они дают конкретные ссылки для спорных вопросов и они подтверждают их правату, а не на оборот как вы пишите что ссылки опровергают их.Даже Еремеев пишет что сравнивать звания разных стран как звания очень трудно, так как в одной стране может быть одно сержантское звание, а в другой десять. В одной стране 1 разряд прапорщиков, а вдругой десять. Поэтому его сравнения по кодам чисто теоретически и только по должностям занимаемым этими званиями, причём он подчеркнул что эти сравнения приблизительны. Ведь сам суди не может звание полковник в тех странах где оно высшее быть равен генералу или маршалу. Также есть много стран где высшее звание ген-майор или ген-лейтенант. Их тоже нельзя относить к ОФ 10 ИЛИ 9 только потому что они самые старшие офицеры этих стран. Как должности да они равны, но как звания нет. НАТО коды сравнивают старшинство званий, а не старшинство должностей. Также вы сами нарушаете много правил Википедии, в том числе WP:3RR и изменения без доказательств. Чем ты лучше их, если са нарушаешь одно правило за другим. И вообще я вжу что разногласий у вас с ними не много, а точнее два: А) ЭКВИВАЛЕНТНОСТЬ, Б)ТЕОРЕТИЧЕСКИЕ ЗВАНИЯ. Неужели трудно где то и им и вам оступить друг другу.Ведь в некоторых вопросах правы вы, а в некоторых они. --Fokster 20:10, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- The quality or your argument was tested again by yet another admin and... ring-ring, ta-da, touche, you were blocked in result. Does it tell you something?
- OK, I'll try to pretend you're not Roitr (talk · contribs · block log) :)
- Chief Marshal of the Air Force of the Russian Federation was voted to be deleted, as evident from the deletion log. The other voting you cite concerns Air Force ranks in general, nothing more.
- The various sites which state Brigadier is an equivalent to Russian Major General were probably counting by the number of stars, which is simply a misconception. You should look deep into the History of Russian military ranks to realize it, right to the first variant of the Table of Ranks.
- Honestly, I don't care what 3rd party sites say if Rossiyskaya Gazeta and the official site of State Duma place Marshal as both all-forces and deck rank.
- --Dmitry 09:51, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
3RR
[edit]Hi, If you suspect someone is a sockpupeet of a blocked user please not only revert his or her edit but also inform a sysop (e.g. me) or post to WP:ANI. You could get a block for 3RR. Please check [3] abakharev 03:51, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- I see Roitr, even after being banned, still hasn't given up! If you need any help, let me know. Edwy (talk) 15:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
edit summaries
[edit]Please don't forget to use edit summaries when editing articles. It is extremely helpful for others.
- Could you be more specific please? --Dmitry 20:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Also, you are probably aware about the Russia portal and its Portal:Russia/New article announcements and Portal:Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice boards. You may even want to add these boards to your watchlist. Regards, --Irpen 20:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
In this edit to Makarov's article you could just have said "specifying praporshchik", in this edit, you could have said "rephrased intro and added ru-wiki", and so on. Summaries are helpful to others, that's all. --Irpen 20:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Ah... OK. The problem with edit summaries is that you can't assume good faith anymore, so checking a diff is always a good idea, and these edits were pretty obvious. When the scope of change is not obvious or so extensive that it breaks the diff display, I do try to provide summaries. --Dmitry 09:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I have too many articles at my watchlist to check every diff. If I see the edit by an editor I've known before and I see it marked as (m)inor, and especially with a summary "typo" or "copyedit", it saves myself time to go check diffs. Similarly, if an editor I not just know but trust supplies his edit with "rm POV pushing" comment, again, I may not go check diffs if I have little time. Summaries are helpful and some Admin nominations even failed because otherwise good editors didn't use them enough. But even if you have no intention to bcome an admin at any time, still writing some meaningful summary is helpful. Thanks, --Irpen 09:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Reverts
[edit]Comlpaint removed to Wikipedia talk:Long term abuse/Roitr
- User:Roitr, you and your sockpuppet accounts were WP:BLOCKED for your destructive behaviour (that is inserting false info, revert warring, ignoring other editors and waging personal attacks) by the ruling of multiple unrelated admins, and you are very close to being WP:BANNED by the community (in that final state of excommunication, using sockpuppets and anonymous IPs to evade ban is prohibited by Wikipedia policy).
- It's true that unless you're formally banned, you can always start afresh legitimately by using new account, but it still doesn't grant you rights to continue your destructive behaviour that resulted in your previous blocks. When your new sockpuppet accounts start to wage revert wars and reinstert bogus unverified information, it is quite rightfully considered Long term abuse so all the accounts in question are blocked.
- So if you want to live a healthy life and not be blocked from editing the Wikipedia, you should follow the policy. Until you learn to behave like an adult, all your contributions will be scrutinized for a suspected vandalism, unjustified edits will be removed and administrative actions will be performed as necessary.
- Mind you that although I'm personally inclined to track your sockpuppet accounts and anonymous IPs and watch your edits, I'm not one of the admins who blocked you and I'm not the right person to communicate your release from the block either. If you desire to file an appeal, refer to WP:BLOCK for instructions (although I'm pretty certain all your blocks will be considered appropriate). --Dmitry 00:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
GMI
[edit]Dmitry, you appear to be online. Perhaps you might drop in at the GMI subpage? Thx --Bravada 00:18, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I won't be available for time-consuming tasks until mid-May. --Dmitry 21:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for replying and have a good time! :D
Bravada
Talk to me! 22:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- PS. I apologize for being annoying, impatience is my middle name (egoism is first)...
- OK, thanks for replying and have a good time! :D
Hi, could someone fix the link to [[Ford]] DAB at /GMI. It is user-space page. 10x --Goldie (tell me) 15:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Roitr
[edit]Please look at my talkpage.--Nixer 19:48, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've seen it... poor guy. Looks like I need to take a more active stance in tracking him... It's pretty sad to waste a hour a day just to undo his damage, but there's no stopping it otherwise. --Dmitry 19:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have wasted the whole day today reverting him about once a 10-15 seconds.--Nixer 20:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Let's see if Wikipedia:Abuse reports#Roitr does any help. --Dmitry 20:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- They already tried to block all Bezeq today [4] but this did not bring any results.--Nixer 20:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, 30 minutes of blocking is not enough, but if admins will block the IP range during his most active hours, that would be of some help...--Dmitry 20:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Let's see if Wikipedia:Abuse reports#Roitr does any help. --Dmitry 20:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
comment on Air Force ranks requested
[edit]Please comment in Talk:Air Force ranks and insignia of the Russian Federation#revert war. (and in other pages you are aware of) `'mikka (t) 20:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry for vague request. A clearly visible section must be created in article talk pages that briefly summarizes the issue (e.g., like you did in my talk page), for easy future reference. `'mikka (t) 20:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
working with Roitr
[edit]Thanks for your comments. I know it may be a pointless gesture, but I have seen some signs that he is trying to improve those articles and not just vandalize them. I just don't think he communicates well with other editors about what point he is trying to make, so I'm trying to appeal to that. I hope it works.... ;) Andrwsc 22:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help in dealing with Oliversi2 (talk · contribs · block log); however, the correct way of marking indefblocked accounts is using template substitutions as outlined in Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Roitr#Sockpuppets, not copying them from other user's pages (they might have been blocked in a different month and the links to logs will be incorrect).
It's also a good idea to maintain a list of his known accoounts at Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Roitr#Sockpuppets, so that other users can watch that page and be aware of any current activity. --Dmitry (talk •contibs ) 09:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and could you please unprotect the user page of Oliversi1 (talk · contribs) or insert the correct template yourself (the admin who protected is gone on vacation)... --Dmitry (talk •contibs ) 09:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Done and done! Thanks for the information, I copied-and-pasted as it was an emergency and I couldn't find the appropriate information in time. Regards, (aeropagitica) (talk) 13:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up on how to deal with Roitr and his sockpuppets. I think this will be a more effective way of blocking him. Perakhantu 19:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
GAZ Ataman?
[edit]Hi Dmitry. Since you know more about the Russian auto market than me, I want to ask you this question. While peaking through Autosoviet, they mentioned in there an SUV called the "GAZ Ataman". In addition, they talked about a prototype "GAZ Ataman II" that never made it into production. Was there really an SUV known as the GAZ Ataman? If so, how long did it (or did it not) last into production? -Daniel Blanchette 20:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know much about it, but to my advantage I can search Russian sources :) Yes there were concepts named Ataman and Yermak which were shown around 1999, but none of them made it into production (I think it's for better). Here are some pages featuring photos (pretty shitty ones, but that was typical for late 1990s when bandwidth was scarse):
- GAZ-2308 "Ataman" pick-up truck [5] [6] (in Russian)
- GAZ-23081 "Atamak Yermak" SUV [7] (in Russian)
- GAZ-230812 pick-up truck
- GAZ-3106 "Ataman II" SUV [8] [9] [10] (in Russian)
If you need more technical details beyond a typical Babelfish vocabulary, just let me know. --Dmitry (talk •contibs ) 21:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Gallery in Moscow article
[edit]Can you please vote here [11] to protect the gallery--Nixer 14:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Image uploading
[edit]Who is uploading those images? Do the accounts need to be blocked? --HappyCamper 21:06, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Most of them are already blocked - see Wikipedia:Long term abuse/Roitr#Sockpuppets... he just re-uploads these images using new sockpuppets, or simply removes {{db-reason}} warnings prior to admin reviewal if he can. --Dmitry (talk •contibs ) 21:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
ZIPI Resolution
[edit]Thanks for updating the resolution page! --STHayden 13:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Roitr
[edit]It seems that nobody wants to block him. Look here: [12]. He continues revert-warring with the same account.--Nixer 17:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's probably a good idea to begin placing formal warnings as required by WP:AIV then report as outlined above, that is provide a diff which shows similarities in edit patterns - for ex. [13] [14]
- Alternatively, you could post to WP:AN/Incidents and complain that admins don't watch WP:LTA/Roitr and take no automatical action when new reports arrive, which defies the purpose of this page.
- I'm currently trying to make most out of my few remainting vacation days, so I'm afraid I'm not able to devote too much attention to the matter... sorry. --Dmitry (talk •contibs ) 11:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Mistaken association with Roitr
[edit]Dear Dimitry,
My username on wikipedia is leonemirovsky, and someone's tagged me as a username used in the "Roitr" matter. I see that you have been actively involved in this issue, and so I hope it is appropreate that I write to you on this page in regard to this issue, though I also sent correspondence to the Wikipedia general info e-mail.
My username is not connected to Roitr, though I understand why I was tagged (I removed a "disputed" tag in an article about Russian military ranks, because I didn't see that discussion as high-level enough to need to be on top of the article). Now that may have been amateurish of me, but it was in no way connected to the disruptions to wikipedia caused by "Roitr."
Please take a look at my username's history. You'll see that your association of my username with "Roitr" was coincidental.
If you need some sort of verification, I would be glad to e-mail you (I have a verified address with wikipedia now) or even to speak with you over the phone.
In short, please un-tangle my username from any "Roitr" associations.
Best regards and thanks in advance, LeoNemirovsky
P.S. Thanks for your work on the Gendarmarie and Czar's Chancellery articles. I do research on that period, and it's nice to see it not being overlooked.
--Leonemirovsky 20:55, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Following Up
[edit]Dear Dimitry: thanks! Mind if I remove this entry from your talk page? --Leonemirovsky 21:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
KHS Mountain Bike
[edit]Why did you revert the name of this bike page back to KHS Mountain Bike, when it should be KHS Bicycles. Only their Taiwanese web site calls itself KHS Mountain Bike, and the name is misleading because they sell more than mountain bikes! English speakers, reading the English wikipedia, are more likely to research the US web site which is called KHS Bicycles. I thought I would ask what your reasoning is first. Thanks. Fritter 15:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
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question
[edit]does the 'Marshal's Star' is officialy exist today?? i saw it worn by igor sergeyev... Superzohar 09:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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Our Lady of Kursk
[edit]Hi, I know you are in wikivacation but, since the topic is not hot, there's no rush. At your convinience, would you please pay a look at Our Lady of Kursk talk page? I'm just suspecting that the transliteration of a cyrilic word is not correct, however, I noticed you have made a minor edit in this article and haven't amend that, which means that I may be well wrong anyway. Thanks and enjoy your wikitime off! Mountolive 04:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hello Dmitry - need some help
[edit]Hi Dmitry. This is DanCBJMS1988 from GMi again. I was wondering if you can look over two articles that I did a while back. Mainly, I need the knowledge of someone who knows the area better than me, seeing as I am from North America and thus not familiar with Russia. The articles are:
It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Daniel Blanchette 00:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Договариваться надо уметь
[edit]За два с половиной года ты ещё не понял, что со мной надо пытаться договорится. А то у меня нет проблем продолжать это войну возвратов ещё столько же. Если тебе нравится такой вариант, то продолжай в своём духе.Но я предлагаю лучше. Раньше мы с тобой спорили о эквивалентности званий России и США. И твой вариант и мой теоретически правильны, так как официально эквивалентность никто не установил.Разные книги, сайты и др. источники толкуют их по разному. Но я сейчас удивлён о званиях Китая. Ты сам писал мне раньше, что китайская система званий отличается от европейских и поэтому сравнивать звания Китая и США СЛОЖНО. И ещё ты писал что плохо знаешь о китайских званиях и спорить о них не будешь. Но, то что ты творишь сейчас убирая звания и погоны Маршала Китая и Генералиссимуса существовавшие до 1965 года - это чушь и отрицание действительности. Прочитай Yuan Shuai и другие сайты и ты увидишь что они были. Я живу в Израиле и здесь много гастарбайтеров из Китая и я их попросил перевод званий. Yi Ji Shang Jiang - полный генерал или генерал первого класса и поэтому он приблизительно равен полному генералу США. Da Xiao старший полковник и руководит он полу-бригадами. В США ни полу-бригад ни звания старший полковник просто нет и оно не равняется бригадному генералу. Маршал Китая приблизительно равен генералу армии США, а Генералиссимус Китая приблизительно равен генералу армий США. И вообще у меня к тебе вопрос. Почему надо вообще в Русских званиях давать эквивалент американских. Про них есть свои статьи. Я считаю надо сделать статью типа, как сделал User:DimaY2K/sandbox. Тогда и 99% разногласий исчезнут. Так как ни я и ни ты не отрицают существования и названия большинства званий России. Этот вариант я считаю почти идеальным, так как в нём чисто указанны звания и погоны с английской транскрипцией и без лишних сравнений и комментариев (их пусть сделает каждый читатель сам, как посчитает правильно по его мнению). Надеюсь наконец на понимание.-Roitr
Unicodify
[edit]May I ask what tool are you using to unicodify pages, as in this diff? --Dmitry (talk •contibs ) 14:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Dmitry. One of the functions of my bot is to turn appropriate HTML entities into UTF-8. The bot just searches the entire article for entities using a regular expression, checks each one to see if it's safe to turn it into UTF-8, and if it is, does so. The bot itself isn't open source at the moment, but I could fairly easily extract the unicodifying code if you need it. Cheers, Cmdrjameson 11:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]I need to speak to you via email. -- Netsnipe ► 17:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Roitr Sockpuppetry / Russian Military stuff
[edit]I'm trying to work on his sockpuppetry as well. Anonymous IP 82.81.48.207 seems to be removing speedy notices, and fits the block registered to his ISP. Reporting for checkuser. --Auto(talk / contribs) 21:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Regardless of whether or not User:Botisaf was a sockpuppet, his edit on this page appears to be valid. I myself asked about PLA's marshal position, because I was aware that Lin Biao and Peng Dehuai were marshals, and I was suprised that the rank wasn't listed. --Yuje 07:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I checked out the page you gave me, and it appears that those two marshal-equivalent ranks are in fact listed, so it appears legit. [15] I don't have a matching picture and insignia that fits in with the rest, but maybe the table can be restored, without the picture?--Yuje 10:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm don't know if anyone ever heard the very highest rank, but according to the Chinese Wikipedia, and Category:Marshals of China, a total of 10 people held the marshal-equivalent rank. --Yuje 10:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Re:Roitr
[edit]In fact I went fishing on that one. I saw him creating the page and was puzzled by his lack of communication. So I went to the original article and saw all the fuss about him in the history. I just followed my intuition and added him to the list. I considered requesting a checkuser but he hadn't done anything wrong. Thanks for the help! -- lucasbfr talk 11:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- You might want to consider running a checkuser on that one by the way. I don't know the whole story so I would screw it up, you'll need to find a recently blocked sock of him.
- Been tracking Army ranks, Navy ranks, and Air Force ranks wrt possible Roitr sockpuppet Skafandrus changes, just a hunch. Aldis90 18:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]Why did you edit the article Army ranks and insignia of the Russian Federation to say that the Russian rank Major General was equivalent to the US rank Major General, rather than the US rank Brigadier General? The article said that the Russian rank of Major General was equivalent to the US rank of Brigadier General, and it gave a source of Harriet Fast Scott and William F. Scott, The Armed Forces of the USSR, Westview Press, Boulder, Colorado, 1979, Appendix B. - Shaheenjim 19:58, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Also, do you know the answers to my questions on this page? Thanks. - Shaheenjim 19:58, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer. Note my follow up question at Talk:Chief_Marshal. - Shaheenjim 20:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your additional answers. Note my additional follow up questions at Talk:Chief Marshal and Talk:Army ranks and insignia of the Russian Federation#Russian Major General equivalent. - Shaheenjim 22:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- FYI, I updated the articles on Chief Marshal, General of the Army (USSR), and Army ranks and insignia of the Russian Federation with the information you gave me. Thanks again. - Shaheenjim 23:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Response re: Roitr...
[edit]...here. —Wknight94 (talk) 14:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Вам ответ
[edit]Я написал Вам ответ на странице (английской) про Н. С. Хрущева. Так как Вы относительно давно там были, думаю лучше было сообщить об этом Вам. (Извините если что не так как принято сделал, я совсем не пользуюсь Вики. Только читать люблю.) Еще одна штука, вы пишите на русской части или нет? 168.103.49.45 (talk) 22:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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FIRE and variable intake manifold articles
[edit]Both your reverts are factually wrong.
FIRE article:
- No FIRE engine has ever been called JTB, not even internally. The only engine which has JTB as an internal denomination is the 1750 TBI engine. JTB Stands for Jet-thrust Turbo Benzina, which is a variation on the older Jet Thrust Stoichiometric acronym used on the 1970cc direct injection Pratola Serra Famiglia B engine, and on the GM-derived direct-injection units used on the 939/946 family of cars. In other words, JTB was an internal denomination to identify an engine with both direct injection and turbocharging. It was never used as an official denomination, which was changed to TBI, which stands for Turbo Benzina Iniezione (Turbo Petrol Injection). Therefore, associating it to FIRE engines is incorrect.
- The 1242cc 8v SMPI engine without VVT went out of production in 2009, last usage was on the Fiat Idea. From 2007 onwards (first applied on the Fiat 500), Fiat uses an Euro5 version of the 1242cc 8v, which has VVT. I quote from the Fiat 500 launch press pack: "Fluid dynamic optimisation achieved by a new high turbulence combustion chamber combined with a continuous variable cam phaser."[fire 1]
- Starjet is a term which specifically identifies the 1368cc 16v unit with both PDA and VVT, and not 1368cc engines in general. Quote: "the new 95 bhp 1.4 16v Starjet (EURO 4) applies three technologies at the same time for the first time in the world. It adopts a variable swirl combustion chamber system based on an intake manifold with phased Doppler anemometry (PDA), combined with variable valve timing (VVT) controlled by the injection control unit."[fire 2]. There is no 8v Starjet either.
- Fiat PR has never stated that all Punto engines have PDA. And as I pointed out, the two engines I marked as having VVT do have VVT.
Variable length intake manifold article:
T-Jet engines don't have PDA and they don't have VVT. Since the article is about PDA, including them in the list is wrong. You'll find no mention of either PDA or VVT in the press release for the T-Jet engine.[1] Take a look at the official cutaway images, and you'll see that the intake manifold is without PDA, and that there's no VVT as well.[2][3][4]. By contrast, look at the StarJet official cutaway, and you'll readily notice the PDA system, which is actuated with a slider valve, and the cam phaser.[5]
- ^ http://www.fiatpress.com/press/detail/9482
- ^ http://www.fiatpress.com/actionphp/show.Image.php?format=1280&src=SYSTEM_ARCHIVIO/GRUPPO01~MODELLI_ATTUALI_F/070131_F_Bravo_23_1024.jpg
- ^ http://www.fiatpress.com/actionphp/show.Image.php?format=1280&src=SYSTEM_ARCHIVIO/GRUPPO01~MODELLI_ATTUALI_F/070131_F_Bravo_26_1024.jpg
- ^ http://www.fiatpress.com/actionphp/show.Image.php?format=1280&src=SYSTEM_ARCHIVIO/GRUPPO01~MODELLI_ATTUALI_F/070131_F_Bravo_27_1024.jpg
- ^ http://www.fiatpress.com/actionphp/show.Image.php?format=1280&src=SYSTEM_ARCHIVIO/GRUPPO01~MODELLI_ATTUALI_F/060420_F_punto_engine_1024.jpg
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[edit]Hello, DmitryKo. Please accept my belated Merry Christmas.
I saw this edit which you made in Windows 7 article and I seriously would like to know what made you do this edit, because honestly, it does not seem factually accurate to me. But since you are an established Wikipedian, I think your take on the matter is worth considering; perhaps you see something to which I do not pay enough/appropriate/correct attention?
Thanks in advance.
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- Check the download link provided in the KB article, it clearly says PRE-RELEASE VERSION and the release date is November 5. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35661 --Dmitry (talk•contibs) 09:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hello. Thank you for the new source. I see that existing sources were quite deceiving as they were written in a manner that made me believe there is a full release.
- I have reinstated your edit along with clarifications. Thanks for the good work.
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Undiscussed article move -twist beam
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GM Family A/B engine
[edit]DmitryKo, I know you are the go to person on anything GM engine related. So, I was wondering why is the LL0 (U.S. market Chevrolet Spark), LUZ (U.S. market Chevrolet Cruze Diesel), and LUV (U.S. market Buick Encore) listed as Family B engines on gmpowertrain.com? Here's a link: gmpowertrain.com/product_guide/2014_Information_Guide_Final2.pdf. VX1NG (talk) 17:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, must be some regional discrepancy between GM NA and Opel. This U.S. version of Family 0 has different bore-stroke combination, so it probably warranted a new name. Why re-cycle the name already assigned for a very different diesel engine is beyond me... when I first noticed this in a preliminary Sonic flyer, I honestly thought it was a mistake. --Dmitry (talk•contibs) 13:26, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- I wonder if Family B is GM's generic name for non-in house engines in NA. Also, the LL0 engine says S-Tec II on it(http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/Home/Vehicles/Cars/2014%20Spark/Model%20Overview/01_images/2014-chevrolet-spark-model-overview-performance-cnt-well-1-400x415-02.png), do you think it belongs under Daewoo S-TEC engine instead of GM Family 0 engine? VX1NG (talk) 18:20, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- This could actually be a picture of the S-TEC II engine, probably imported from an European press kit. Never seen either S-TEC or Family 0 in real life though. --Dmitry (talk•contibs) 16:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Here is a review for the U.S. version: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/09/review-2013-chevrolet-spark-ls/ In the review this photo of the engine was posted (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/09/review-2013-chevrolet-spark-ls/spark-engine/) and it says S-Tec II on it as well. Another question which engine code (RPO or European engine code) should we use for organizing the engine articles? Currently, I have the GM 54-Degree V6 engine article sorted by displacement. VX1NG (talk) 19:34, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- This could actually be a picture of the S-TEC II engine, probably imported from an European press kit. Never seen either S-TEC or Family 0 in real life though. --Dmitry (talk•contibs) 16:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- I wonder if Family B is GM's generic name for non-in house engines in NA. Also, the LL0 engine says S-Tec II on it(http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/Home/Vehicles/Cars/2014%20Spark/Model%20Overview/01_images/2014-chevrolet-spark-model-overview-performance-cnt-well-1-400x415-02.png), do you think it belongs under Daewoo S-TEC engine instead of GM Family 0 engine? VX1NG (talk) 18:20, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I have checked GmPowertrain.com and the picture of LL0 in the US section is clearly different from similar Family 0 engines in the European section. Also, they say production site for LL0 is Changwon, Korea. Doh. So you are right, must be an up-stroked S-TEC II. I probably assumed that since the newer Indian version comes with Family 0 for some reason, the US version would also be based on Family 0, since the 1.4 EcoFlex Family 0 for the Volt is already produced in Flint, Michigan.
The two code systems are complimentary. European engine codes are far less specific than RPO codes, since only basic features are encoded such as emission system, displacement and fuel injection. However RPO codes for older European engines have never been known until now, thanks to recent launch of GMPowertrain.com , and they have absolutely no information on engine features and displacement. So I would sort by displacement, then list both codes for specific versions. --Dmitry (talk•contibs) 20:41, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking into this!
- Ok, that's what I did for GM 54-Degree V6 engine. I also couldn't help but notice that GmPowertrain.com doesn't use the name "Family II" but instead calls the engines "Ecotec". Are the "Family II" engines and "Ecotec" engines two different families? VX1NG (talk) 13:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
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- When did the Opel Family II engines split into GM Family II engines, GM Family 1 engines, and GM Family 0 engines? Regards, VX1NG (talk) 17:12, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
GM Family II engine Rename Proposal
[edit]DmitryKo, I am proposing that the current GM Family II engine article (engines with an aluminum head and block) be moved to General Motors Ecotec engine. I just wanted your opinion since you have been a major contributor. Thanks, VX1NG (talk) 19:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- P.S. I have already moved all of the pre-Ecotec engines to Opel Family II engine
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