Talk:List of one-hit wonders in the United States
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True by Spandau Ballet
[edit]I think that we should add True by Spandau Ballet to the list since we have Take On Me by a-ha where both artists have had two Billboard Top 40 hits but only one was siginificant. 112.205.215.42 (talk) 04:47, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- The current inclusion criteria call for two independent reliable sources directly stating the act is a one-hit wonder. - SummerPhDv2.0 05:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Not only do we need two sources for each entry, but the sources should be portraying the US point of view. Britannica doesn't do that. Binksternet (talk) 05:16, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- But there is one source that does, and is far more accurate. Billboard. 50.111.24.195 (talk) 04:10, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- That does not meet this article's current inclusion criteria. The discussion of your displeasure with the current criteria is at Talk:List_of_one-hit_wonders_in_the_United_States#Inclusion_Criteria. - SummerPhDv2.0 04:38, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- If the criteria of ONE Billboard Top 40 is the guideline, Spandau Ballet would not qualify, as "Gold" did make the Billboard Top 40. To be true to the criteria, it would have to be that A-ha should be removed from the list. 32.212.41.123 (talk) 22:50, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- We are not using that criteria. Rather, we are citing the media who have made their assessments of "one-hit wonder" status based on whatever they think is important. Binksternet (talk) 01:39, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
I just added them yesterday, a Britannica source with a US point of view and a popular US radio show are the two sources I used as proof that they really are a one-hit-wonder in the US. Nintendoswitchfan (talk) 07:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Warning about possible false citations
[edit]So, I was recently looking through the list, and I noticed something. It seems that some people are citing (or at least are going to attempt to cite) the page "All One-Hit Wonders 1955-2016" from top40weekly.com
The cite lists all artists from 1955 to a certain point in 2016 (then it just cuts off for whatever reason) who have only had one song appear in the Top 40 of The Billboard Hot 100. The issue is that some people are citing this cite for artists that in reality, have had more than one song reach the Top 40 of The Billbaord Hot 100. They seem to think that because the list is long, no one is going to be bothered to click on the direct link, and actually look through the list for themselves and see if the artist in question is even on the list at all.
A similar thing goes for Wayne Jancik. I just removed an entry from the list (That being the group Club Nouveau with the song "Lean on Me" to be exact) because Wayne Jancik was falsely cited. He explicitly defines a One-Hit Wonder as "An act that has won a position on Billboard's national, pop, Top 40 just once." Club Nouveau however, had two Top 40 songs. I also just replaced a citation for Mungo Jerry's "In The Summertime". The citation was "Jancik (1998), p. 500."
One issue however, I don't think whoever used this citation (or most people on this Wiki page for that matter) have even READ Wayne Jancik's book at ALL. My Wayne Jancik book is from 2008. The bulk of the book tells the stories of artists who have had only one Top 40 song, who's songs have in turn peaked at positions #1 - #20. At the back of the book from Pages #498 - #509, are some pages not talking about in detail, but rather simply listing all of the artists (from 1955 - 1992) who have had only one Top 40 song, who's songs have in turn peaked at positions #21 - #40. The section is called "The Bottom 20". (Likely because of limitations) Mungo Jerry's song "In The Summertime" was cited to be Page #500 of Wayne Jancik's 1998 book, "The Billboard Book of One-Hit Wonders". (Which in all fairness, I do not own)
https://www.amazon.com/Billboard-One-Hit-Wonders-Wayne-Jancik/dp/0823076229
Here on Amazon, one of the reviewers is explaining the "Bottom 20" section of the book. So the book must also be structured like Wayne Jancik's 2008 book, "One-Hit Wonders". (The book that I happen to own) The song "In The Summertime" by Mungo Jerry peaked at #3, so the entry for Mungo Jerry in the book should not be anywhere NEAR Page #500. It should be at the begin of the 1970's chapter. (For me, the song is listed on Page #287)
Guys, what I am trying to say is this: When a new entry is put on the list, you MUST check the sources used. End of story. There might be an invalid source used, and you would never even notice it. So I am just trying to bring awareness to this issue on here.
Thank You for your time ~ Alex Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 00:06, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
sfn/sfnp error
[edit]Shoot, well now some citations like the first one for Polly Brown are messed up. They have an error, and I have literally absolutely NO idea how it got there. It's to the SPIN website. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 06:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Help with sfnps
[edit]Hey, if anyone knows how to convert the Wayne Jancik 2008 book citations to sfnps, then please let me know! Cause I just tried to convert one, and an error came up. So of course, I didn't even try to go through with it. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 05:45, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
add a new topic
[edit]we should add collboration one hit wonders because there are many people who are one hit wonders for a song that they were featured in examples, Kiki Dee, Florence Welch, Rozes, chvrches, freshlyground, sabi, leighton meester ( I dont know how to do this)24.184.10.164 (talk) 15:39, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well, based on the page's vague criteria, none of these artists would be disqualified. Featured artists are just fine. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 19:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
One hit wonders of the 2020s
[edit]Should there be a section about one hit wonders in the 2020s? There's plenty of those too. RockStarrMusicLover95 (talk) 01:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- We can most definitely try to include a 2020s section. There have been several, mostly short-lived attempts to start a 2020s section in the past, but none have ever caught on or stuck. So as long as the entry has two reliable, US-based sources, then sure! Let's go add some entries! Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 05:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- At the moment i'm not seeing enough sources i think it's because the acts are still active and have a chance to release something, i will keep the section on my sandbox for now :). DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 15:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Thin Lizzy
[edit]Hlom10 keeps removing Thin Lizzy, including the reference that clearly states they were a one hit wonder (in those exact words). Others, feel free to opine on this, one way or another. Dennis Brown 2¢ 10:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Unreliable Sources
[edit]A lot of the entries on this page have sources of questionable quality, like tiny websites with clickbait listicles or Sporcle quizzes. Given Wikipedia's policy on reliable sources, specifically about questionable or self-published sources, there seem to be a lot of entries that should either be removed or given proper sources. Janus Antoninus (talk) 23:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- The task will be easier if you point out specific sources to remove. Binksternet (talk) 01:38, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding your removal of Carly Rae Jepsen, it would be interesting for the reader if we write a paragraph about her career arc saying that she was considered a one-hit wonder for the three years between 2012 and 2015, despite the success of "Good Time", her second US hit single in 2012. Binksternet (talk) 01:55, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, some obvious examples of questionable sources besides the dozens of Sporcle references are the citations of hollywoodgossip.com, mentalitch.com, musicgrotto, popexpresso.com, playback.fm, reads-it.com, rtt80s.com, and 360degreesound.com. All of those are tiny websites that don't even have a Wikipedia page about them or about any parent publisher and that give no indication of criteria, methods, expertise, or anything else that would give independent confidence in their lists.
- I'll also mention that there are plenty of other listicles cited from publications that other editors might consider dubious as a basis for saying a song is a one-hit wonder but that are at least well-established in pop culture or comedy (e.g. Buzzfeed, Cracked, Bustle, Pop Matters, Pop Crush) or are at least actual news sources (e.g. articles from random local radio stations or newspapers). I would put in a vote removing any Buzzfeed sources but that might just be prejudice. Otherwise I haven't seen any sign that those are questionable sources for this topic.
- I agree that it's a good idea to add a line somewhere about Carly Rae Jepsen, given how widely discussed her not being a one-hit wonder is. The other two that I had removed recently on account of having multiple hits in the Top 10 of the US Billboard Hot 100 - Psy and LMFAO - are probably also notable for being occasionally or temporarily called one-hit wonders but also being occasionally described as escaping one-hit wonder status (LMFAO is a particular weird case because they had two #1 hits in the US but they were close to the same time and their third Top 40 hit was a collab and not as massively famous). Psy though has some solid sources calling him a one-hit wonder so I don't see any policy reason to exclude him. Janus Antoninus (talk) 05:41, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Janus Antoninus I went through and marked those (and a bunch of others) with {{Unreliable source?}}. There's still a lot more crap in there. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Janus Antoninus I went through and marked those (and a bunch of others) with {{Unreliable source?}}. There's still a lot more crap in there. --Ahecht (TALK
- I agree that it's a good idea to add a line somewhere about Carly Rae Jepsen, given how widely discussed her not being a one-hit wonder is. The other two that I had removed recently on account of having multiple hits in the Top 10 of the US Billboard Hot 100 - Psy and LMFAO - are probably also notable for being occasionally or temporarily called one-hit wonders but also being occasionally described as escaping one-hit wonder status (LMFAO is a particular weird case because they had two #1 hits in the US but they were close to the same time and their third Top 40 hit was a collab and not as massively famous). Psy though has some solid sources calling him a one-hit wonder so I don't see any policy reason to exclude him. Janus Antoninus (talk) 05:41, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Hozier broke his One-Hit Wonder status today! YAAAAAAYYYY!!! :D :D :D
[edit]https://www.billboard.com/artist/hozier/ Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 01:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- I thought He was already removed from this list because of "Northern Attitude" but congrats to him for getting two top 10 hits in the US.DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 15:49, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Nazareth, A Flock of Seagulls and Randy Newman
[edit]I noticed their are several artist who had more than one hit. Nazareth besides their song Love Hurts had another hit with Hair of the Dog. A Flock Of Seagulls had Space Age Love song which was a hit and Wishing I had a Photograph of you and Randy Newman who had several more hits than just Short People. He had You've Got a Friend in Me, as well as several more successful songs that appeared in Pixar films. Joey (talk) 14:43, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- @MrJoeytheMusicMan Yeah, I have a hard time classifying a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee with with seven Grammy awards (three of which were in a "Best Song" category), two Academy Awards for Best Original Song, and three Emmys for Music and Lyrics as a one-hit wonder. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)- I think they should be removed from the list, their are a few other artist here and their I have noticed as not being one hit wonders. Joey (talk) 19:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- A-ha has "The Sun Always Shines On TV", which peaked at #20 on Billboard Hot 100, #6 on Dance Club Songs, #5 on Dance Singles Sales, and #24 on Cash Box; and Dead Or Alive has "Brand New Lover" at #15 on Billboard Hot 100, and #1 on Dance Club Songs and Dance Singles Sales. Should they be removed? 67.43.190.226 (talk) 18:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Extensive tagging of sources
[edit]Pinging Ya Boy Alex! who alerted me. Earlier today, Ahecht tagged a bunch of sources as unreliable. Here's a list of the base websites along with my off-the-cuff assessment:
- playback.fm – lacks a human author, probably automated web scraper
- mentalitch.com – lacks a human author, probably AI-generated text
- 360degreesound.com – looks okay to me because the website has multiple editors and contributors.[1]
- medium.com – generally unreliable source, depending on the author and the topic. See WP:MEDIUM.
- metv.com – lacks a named author, just "Staff". The "about" page does not name any editors or writers which is worrisome.[2]
- www.musicgrotto.com – looks okay to me because the website has multiple editors and contributors.[3]
- rtt80s.com – Wordpress blog, falls under WP:USERG. If someone can establish Paul Stroessner as a music critic or musicologist then this can be used.
- sporcle.com – looks like a blogging platform which allows anyone to contribute. Same as medium.com. If the author doesn't use their real name then the reliability goes waaay down.
- buzzfeed.com – possibly unreliable source, depending on the author and the topic. See WP:BUZZFEED.
- tidal.com – lacks a human author, probably automated web scraper
- reads-it.com – suspiciously automated appearance, with every article written by "Bobby McNeill" but no list of editors or contributors. The notional Bobby McNeill does not have a reputation as a music expert. Looks like AI-generated text.
- cracked.com – looks okay to me because the website has multiple editors and contributors.[4]
- watchmojo.com – I'm baffled because I can't find a list of editors and contributors, but writer Andy Hammersmith might be a pop culture journalist from Ohio.
- whatculture.com – Maybe okay, maybe not. Writer Alexander Greensmith appears to be a real human, but the website does not list its editors and contributors.
- hollywoodgossip.com – The named author is fake or a pseudonym: Tattle Taylor. Might be AI-generated text.
- whosampled.com – lacks a human author, probably automated web scraper.
- There are some other dodgy sources that were not tagged by Ahecht
- junkee.com – The main problem here is that Junkee is based in Australia, so if they think a musical artist is a one-hit wonder, that has little relevance for the USA. The writer Nathan Jolly looks like a career music critic from Australia.
- audacy.com – Questionable source, does not list its team of editors or contributors. The named author is Marni Zipper who works for Sony in Los Angeles as a digital marketer.
I think we need to establish which of these can be considered reliable, and which are not. Following that, some entries will probably fall away. Binksternet (talk) 01:57, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank You! I will try to work this out. :) Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 03:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Binksternet, Ya Boy Alex!: I didn't think I had tagged metv.com, just gave the references real names, but perhaps I should have. Not sure why I tagged 360degreesound -- I thought the site had looked a lot scammier when I visited it yesterday, but I might've done something like accidentally mistyped the URL or clicked on an ad. I'll remove those tags. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)- @Binksternet As for cracked.com and whatculture.com, they are listed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Cracked.com and WP:WHATCULTURE as "generally unreliable". --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Binksternet As for cracked.com and whatculture.com, they are listed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Cracked.com and WP:WHATCULTURE as "generally unreliable". --Ahecht (TALK
The One-Hit Wonders page on Top40Weekly has been updated!
[edit]Check it out! 2016 is completed, as well as adding 2017, 2018 and 2019! Also, three new entries have been added prior to 2010:
Stone Poneys - Different Drum (January 27th, 1968) (#13)
Garbage - Stupid Girl (September 21st, 1996) (#24)
Weezer - Beverly Hills (October 8th, 2005) (#10)
Yaaaaay! :D
~ Alex :) Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 06:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Bustle article
[edit]Bustle has firm editorial oversight.[5] They are an online magazine. The article in question was written by a veteran entertainment journalist. Nothing unreliable that I can see in this case. Binksternet (talk) 22:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but this is your opinion, not a discussion. Have you reviewed both the article and what Wikipedia's reliable source guidance suggests?[6] The sentences are: "It's depressing, but really pretty at the same time. I can't tell you how many times I played this song on repeat." That doesn't cut it. Caro7200 (talk) 23:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- The bar is lower than you think. At Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources, the Bustle online magazine is questioned for reliability but not deprecated. That means articles from Bustle are available to use unless proven unreliable on a case-by-case basis. Binksternet (talk) 23:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly. Have these two sentences made the article's case that the Wallflowers are a one-hit-wonder? The entire thing is closer to a listicle made up of a freelancer's musings. Caro7200 (talk) 23:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is no proof needed for the label "one-hit wonder" which tends to be a social construct rather than a precise statistical fact. If two media sources apply the label we have enough foundation to list that artist. Binksternet (talk) 00:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would hope it's two reliable media sources, but it doesn't seem to be. WP is built on reliable sources and the factuality of the statements made by those sources. This listicle doesn't provide any actual content. Caro7200 (talk) 00:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is no proof needed for the label "one-hit wonder" which tends to be a social construct rather than a precise statistical fact. If two media sources apply the label we have enough foundation to list that artist. Binksternet (talk) 00:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly. Have these two sentences made the article's case that the Wallflowers are a one-hit-wonder? The entire thing is closer to a listicle made up of a freelancer's musings. Caro7200 (talk) 23:36, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- The bar is lower than you think. At Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources, the Bustle online magazine is questioned for reliability but not deprecated. That means articles from Bustle are available to use unless proven unreliable on a case-by-case basis. Binksternet (talk) 23:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Wallflowers as OHW
[edit]Other sources discuss whether the Wallflowers are a one-hit wonder.
- Business Insider magazine from 2018, updated 2024
- Cosmopolitan magazine from 2021
- UK magazine NME from 2014
- Boston-based Edge Media said in 2009 that the Wallflowers are remembered as a one-hit wonder.
- American magazine Redbook published a story in 2021 which was re-published by Yahoo Lifestyle Canada.
- On pages 87–88 of the book Music of the 1990s, Florida music professor Thomas Harrison talks about artists that might "emerge as a one-hit wonder". Harrison lists Beck as a possibility, but three years after his first big hit, Beck enjoyed several more "smash" hit songs to avoid the label. Harrison then talks about Blind Melon and the Wallflowers having only one big hit followed by a critical loss of momentum.
- CMJ New Music Monthly magazine wrote in 2000 that Bob Dylan was never a one-hit wonder but for the Wallflowers "that remains a very real possibility".
Several sources such as Grunge.com and a fan review published in the Deseret News talk about the Wallflowers being considered a one-hit wonder while adding contradictory text to negate the label. But enough positive application of the label appears in sources for us to list the band. Binksternet (talk) 00:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Many, but not all, are better than Bustle, with some still not explicitly calling the band a one-hit-wonder (and which doesn't change the fact that they had four big radio hits). It may be time to get input from the broader music project on this: the whole issue is that one-hit-wonder and artist with one top 40 hit aren't synonymous. This article tries to have it both ways, and many others to boot, as other editors have noted. It often seems like a monument to Wayne Jancik and mediocre sourcing, curated by one editor. As you mentioned, Binksternet, "one-hit-wonder" has a certain meaning, of pop, frivolity, the rose-tinted past, etc. For one example, Frank Zappa had one big hit; the larger WP music community may not consider him a "one-hit-wonder", as a truly defining characteristic, especially as one source is a reproduction of a VH1 video listing. I'll raise the subject tomorrow at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music or whichever broader page editors here deem appropriate. Thanks. Caro7200 (talk) 01:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- The thread has been posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music. Caro7200 (talk) 16:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Came from there. IMO Blinksternet has justified keeping that band in. Mach61 17:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
2020s OHWs
[edit]Is it alright if we add one-hit wonders from the 2020s as well? WazzupMyBoyz (talk) 19:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Spinditty can now be used
[edit]I would like to let everyone know that the Canadian website Spinditty.com has a number of articles on One-Hit Wonders, and I have been able to establish the article's writer as an American writer and critic. The articles/lists are also coming from an American perspective. Therefore, we can use the pages as a source for entries! Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 19:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- ive tried to add that one in the past but it was blacklisted therefore blocked to use has it been lifted? DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've been able to establish the writer as American, however I am not able to lift the blacklist status. If you know a way around the issue, then we very much appreciate that. :) Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 20:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Huge oversight within the page
[edit]Firstly, putting all of the one hit wonders in a template makes it near-impossible to edit without unbearable lag, along with heaps of trouble trying to find a specific song due to how ctrl+f works. We should remove the templates and use some sort of paste so it's visually appealing.
Secondly, should we add (featuring so-and-so) within one hit wonders that might have other people who do have more hits. An example is Phillip Bailey - Easy Lover, despite the fact Phil Collins actually sings for longer within the song 203.221.12.54 (talk) 10:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- I write the entries in my sandbox, copy my work, then I go to "edit source" next to the decade and paste it in there. :) Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 01:48, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- The guideline at WP:TOOBIG says a Wikipedia page might be too big if it has more than 6,000 words of readable prose. This article is mostly list entries, so it has only 5,096 words of readable prose. If we include the list entries, it's more like 12,000 words, which is quite large.
- I could see breaking up this page into two chunks, one with the prose explanation and the first three decades, the other with the remaining decades. Note that there were seven articles, one per decade, prior to this discussion in 2017: Talk:List_of_2010s_one-hit_wonders_in_the_United_States#Inclusion_criteria. After that discussion, the entries were pared waaay down and merged. Binksternet (talk) 02:19, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- The seven articles (one for each decade) were better than this subjective list. 99.118.250.37 (talk) 17:46, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
New definition of One-Hit Wonders
[edit]Been thinking this through. I notice some of the one hit wonders here on the lists are from the top 50 to top 100 on the Hot 100 like "My Own Worst Enemy" by Lit and "I Know What Boys Like" by The Waitresses. Even "Lunatic Fringe" by Red Riders, which did not chart on Hot 100, rather Mainstream Rock chart, especially me putting Robin Beck back with her "Sweet Talk" which only charted on Dance Club Chart (formerly called Disco Top 100 at the time). If anything at least hits top 50 to top 100, or some cases, Bubbling Under Hot 100, or any other singles charts by Billboard or even Cashbox, can they still count as one hit wonders if one chart alone regardless if top 40 or under? 67.43.190.226 (talk) 19:15, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- We don't go by chart ratings, Top 40 or Top 50/100 whatever. We go by reliable sources saying that the artist is a one-hit wonder in the context of the USA. Binksternet (talk) 20:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
The One-Hit Wonders page on Top40Weekly has been updated again!
[edit]I just found out that the page has been updated again! This primarily adds new artists (main artists and features) who were left out before. I am very happy about this! :)
~ Alex Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 02:08, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Billy Ray Cyrus
[edit]@Ya Boy Alex! You reverted my removal of Billy Ray Cyrus, as Old Town Road is credited primarily to Lil Nas X, but Cyrus' Billboard page credits him for the remix of Old Town Road as a number one (Achy Breaky Heart was number 4), as a featured artist. The non-Cyrus version is not listed on Lil Nas X's page. Xeroctic (talk) 09:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- My reason for reinstating Billy Ray Cyrus was because Achy Breaky Heart was a song put out by Cyrus as the main/lead artist, where as his appearance on Old Town Road was as a feature. There is a notable difference between being the main artist of a song and simply being a feature on the song. A song is directly credited to the main artist, and the featured artist is just mentioned on the side. One of the near countless examples of how this works is the song The Monster by Eminem ft. Rihanna. Eminem raps the verses and Rihanna sings the chorus. However, people know The Monster to be an Eminem song; not a Rihanna song. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Would it be useful to add a footnote onto the list mentioning Cyrus' other song, and that Achy Breaky Heart is a one-hit wonder as a solo artist? Xeroctic (talk) 13:54, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- There is already a pattern for handling this. In his book, Jancik separates the times that a person appears in a song versus the times they get top billing on a song. The only time they qualify for one hit wonder is when they are getting top billing by name. Examples include Roger Daltrey in a solo song versus Daltrey as a band member in the Who. I think Billy Ray Cyrus should only be counted for his work as solo artist leading his own band. Binksternet (talk) 15:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just as a correction to my previous message, I meant 'by himself' instead of 'solo artist', Cyrus was not a part of a band. Xeroctic (talk) 08:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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