Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.
Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
If you are here because you want an admin to approve of your new article or your proposed page move, you are in the wrong place.
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- The Goat Life → Aadujeevitham – The Goat Life (move · discuss) – the film's original titile is Aadujeevitham, with The Goat Life also being included in the official film poster, just below the main title Aadujeevitham. While CBFC certificate only lists Aadujeevitham, BBFC certficate [1] has the title Aadujeevitham – The Goat Life. To satisfy both original and common name, the article's name should be renamed as Aadujeevitham – The Goat Life. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 07:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Qiyu Zhou → Nemo Zhou (currently a redirect back to Qiyu Zhou) (move · discuss) – Per Special:Permalink/1237918559#Requested move 31 July 2024. RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
Contested technical requests
- Euphoria Morning → Euphoria Mourning (currently a redirect back to Euphoria Morning) (move · discuss) – This gives the article title the same name as the proper album title mentioned in the article. Motorologist (talk) 11:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- There's a case to be made for this, but it's not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 18:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I won't move this because Euphoria Morning seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME. Additionally, the lead can be revised to start with Euphoria Morning followed by Euphoria Mourning, explaining the latter. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Euphoria Morning is the name that the artist himself expressed regret in choosing and made efforts to correct, according to source [5] from the article, it isn't generally accepted as the official or informal title for the album. Because the Euphoria Mourning album title was a correction rather than an simply an alternate or later title, editing the lead to match the title seems like it would require odd, unnecessary language and possibly omissions to avoid suggesting the article title should be changed too, though I'm not aware of how other cases like this are taken. Motorologist (talk) 07:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Being familiar with Cornell's career and this album, I think the current situation is correct and should remain as-is (except for the article's opening sentence). Even though the first edition's title was not what Cornell intended, that is the version that received pro reviews, made the charts, and attracted a Grammy nomination, so that is the official title per WP's WP:COMMONNAME rule. The reissued version has the slightly different title, but that version received much less media coverage and public notice, and the reason for the spelling change is already described adequately in the article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Euphoria Morning is the name that the artist himself expressed regret in choosing and made efforts to correct, according to source [5] from the article, it isn't generally accepted as the official or informal title for the album. Because the Euphoria Mourning album title was a correction rather than an simply an alternate or later title, editing the lead to match the title seems like it would require odd, unnecessary language and possibly omissions to avoid suggesting the article title should be changed too, though I'm not aware of how other cases like this are taken. Motorologist (talk) 07:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ashley Cain-Gribble → Ashley Cain (figure skater) (currently a redirect back to Ashley Cain-Gribble) (move · discuss) – Cain no longer goes by her double-barrelled married name, having divorced her husband in 2022 APM (talk) 13:06, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Are there any reliable sources that confirm this? I don't see any cited in the article. A quick Google search turned up this Reddit thread from 2022, Is Ashley Cain-Gribble getting divorced?, but no confirmation. Most news sources that I found from 2022 still referred to her as Ashley Cain-Gribble, but the news coverage seems to drop off after she and her skating partner retired from competition. She's referred to as Ashley Cain-Gribble in this People Magazine piece from 2023, but she goes by Ashley Cain on social media. Her official website has her as Ashley Cain at the top of the page, though the bottom of the page still reads, "Ashley Cain-Gribble & Timothy LeDuc’s official website is written and produced by Ashley & Timothy...". Buffalkill (talk) 14:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Frustratingly, it doesn't appear so. They must've finalized the divorce sometime last year as Dalton Gribble will be marrying again, but I couldn't find any confirmation of this from reliable sources. It doesn't help that she shares her name with a semi-pro footballer and reality television personality who also split with his partner around the same time. APM (talk) 15:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @AmorPatiturMoras, I also couldn't find sources for that, but Ashley Cain-Gribble appears to be her WP:COMMONNAME. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Frustratingly, it doesn't appear so. They must've finalized the divorce sometime last year as Dalton Gribble will be marrying again, but I couldn't find any confirmation of this from reliable sources. It doesn't help that she shares her name with a semi-pro footballer and reality television personality who also split with his partner around the same time. APM (talk) 15:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Are there any reliable sources that confirm this? I don't see any cited in the article. A quick Google search turned up this Reddit thread from 2022, Is Ashley Cain-Gribble getting divorced?, but no confirmation. Most news sources that I found from 2022 still referred to her as Ashley Cain-Gribble, but the news coverage seems to drop off after she and her skating partner retired from competition. She's referred to as Ashley Cain-Gribble in this People Magazine piece from 2023, but she goes by Ashley Cain on social media. Her official website has her as Ashley Cain at the top of the page, though the bottom of the page still reads, "Ashley Cain-Gribble & Timothy LeDuc’s official website is written and produced by Ashley & Timothy...". Buffalkill (talk) 14:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wiener Derby → Vienna derby (currently a redirect back to Wiener Derby) (move · discuss) – per MOS:AT, WP:TRANSLITERATE, and WP:COMMONNAME. Vienna is the most commonly-used name for the city and derby is a common noun. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 13:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @KingSkyLord: I think this one requires discussion. Of the two English-language sources I found, one calls it the Wiener Derby[2] and the other calls it Viennese Derby[3], "Viennese" being the correct translation of "Wiener". Station1 (talk) 18:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Station1: For articles about association football rivalries, common practice is to use the name of the place not an adjective in the article title (e.g. Dundee derby, not Dundonian derby; South Madrid derby, not South Madrilean derby or Derbi del sur de Madrid), unless it is always only referred to what they call it in their language (e.g. El Clásico, Revierderby). Those two sources are not concrete enough to keep the article's title in German instead of English. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 21:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I notice Revierderby says "Outside Germany, it is often referred to as the Ruhr derby", and that some titles do use the adjectival form, such as Montenegrin Derby. I'm not necessarily going to oppose this if it is the convention, but I would be hesitant to move an article to a title that doesn't appear in sources without giving others the chance for input. Station1 (talk) 05:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Station1: For articles about association football rivalries, common practice is to use the name of the place not an adjective in the article title (e.g. Dundee derby, not Dundonian derby; South Madrid derby, not South Madrilean derby or Derbi del sur de Madrid), unless it is always only referred to what they call it in their language (e.g. El Clásico, Revierderby). Those two sources are not concrete enough to keep the article's title in German instead of English. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 21:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @KingSkyLord: I think this one requires discussion. Of the two English-language sources I found, one calls it the Wiener Derby[2] and the other calls it Viennese Derby[3], "Viennese" being the correct translation of "Wiener". Station1 (talk) 18:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- IBM AIX → AIX (currently a redirect back to IBM AIX) (move · discuss) – Shorter, more concise. AIX already redirects to this article, and WP:DIFFCAPS should allow for this. DigitalIceAge (talk) 03:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- A previous RM that is still on the talk page found no consensus for this exact move. As such, I am moving this to the "contested" area. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Jace Chan → JACE (move · discuss) – Jace Chan is the English name of Chan Hoi Wing, but we hope to present her under the stage name JACE on Wikipedia. Christineyuu (talk) 09:21, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Jace Chan appears to be her WP:COMMONNAME. Also, you said "we", do you have any relationship with Jace. If so, you have to show follow the rules t WP:COI. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- The English-languages sources cited in the article all appear to use "Jace Chan". Note also that the proposed title violates MOS:ALLCAPS. 162 etc. (talk) 16:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Jace Chan appears to be her WP:COMMONNAME. Also, you said "we", do you have any relationship with Jace. If so, you have to show follow the rules t WP:COI. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- United States v. Google LLC (2020) → United States v. Google (2020) (currently a redirect back to United States v. Google LLC (2020)) (move · discuss) – Lawsuit titles usually omit company suffixes. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- United States v. Google LLC (2023) → United States v. Google (2023) (currently a redirect back to United States v. Google LLC (2023)) (move · discuss) – Lawsuit titles usually omit company suffixes. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ElijahPepe: On the contrary. See, e.g., Category:Google litigation. Scholarly legal sources and courts normally include "Ltd.", "Ass'n", etc., which is called for by Bluebook (the most common U.S. legal citation style) and other case citation guides. Aside from criminal trials known for reasons other than the legal precedent established (which are often titled like "Trial of [defendant]"), U.S. case article titles normally follow Bluebook. See MOS:LAW#US. SilverLocust 💬 20:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Raúl Gómez → Raúl Gómez (Cyclist) (move · discuss) – There are other popular people named Raul Gomez, according to Google, since an actor raul gomez, is first listed on google. Mant08 (talk) 19:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Mant08, I think that if a page is created on en.wiki for Wikidata:Q9066857, then a move would be more appropriate at that time. If necessary, we could add a hatnote that there is a notable actor on the es.wiki Raúl Gómez (actor) in the meantime. -2pou (talk) 21:43, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agree this would be premature. Only once another article is written on Wikipedia might this make sense. And in any case, we would use a lower case c. Station1 (talk) 22:16, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Aeroflot Flight 31 (1955) → Aeroflot Flight 31 (move · discuss) – Remove unnecessary year disambiguation. Meltdown627 (talk) 18:07, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Currently redirects to 1976 Anapa mid-air collision, which involved an Aeroflot Flight 31. Made dab. 162 etc. (talk) 19:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @162 etc. Isn't "Flight 31" different enough from "Flight S-31" that it would qualify under WP:TWOOTHER? I would think a hatnote would suffice. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:00, 6 August 2024 (UTC)- It might be. But it's not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 22:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @162 etc. Isn't "Flight 31" different enough from "Flight S-31" that it would qualify under WP:TWOOTHER? I would think a hatnote would suffice. --Ahecht (TALK
- Currently redirects to 1976 Anapa mid-air collision, which involved an Aeroflot Flight 31. Made dab. 162 etc. (talk) 19:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wallace and Gromit → Wallace & Gromit (currently a redirect back to Wallace and Gromit) (move · discuss) – Although there is a previous discussion on this, the current title does not comply with Wikipedia's Manual of Style (please see MOS:AMP) whereas the requested one does. SleepDeprivedGinger (talk) 10:20, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Administrator needed
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
- there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
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Requesting a single page move
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{{subst:requested move|New name|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
Replace New name
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Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.
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Single page move on a different talk page
Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:
{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}
The |1=
unnamed parameter is not used. The |current1=
and |new1=
parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.
Requesting multiple page moves
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
with current1
set to Wikipedia
and current2
set to Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article where the template is placed (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign the request with ~~~~
, since the template does this automatically (so if you sign it yourself there will be two copies of your signature at the end of the request). Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of all pages that are included in your request except the one hosting the discussion, to call attention to the move discussion that is in progress and to suggest that all discussion for all of the pages included in the request should take place at that one hosting location.
For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is itself proposed to be moved, it is not necessary to include the |current1=Current title of page 1
for the page hosting the discussion, as its current title can be inferred automatically. Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace, in which case it is necessary to include |current1=
to indicate the first article to be moved.
Request all associated moves explicitly
Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:
If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:
is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.
- Cricket → ?
If a disambiguation page is in the way of a move, the request may be completed as proposing to add (disambiguation).
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Requested move 7 August 2024
Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 11:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Requested move 7 August 2024
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Requested move 7 August 2024
– why Example (talk) 11:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC) |
Commenting on a requested move
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding
~~~~
to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets. - The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
- Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
- Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
- Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
- Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.
Closing a requested move
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
Relisting a requested move
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting should be done using {{subst:RM relist}}
, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.
Notes
- ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement appears on the list on this page.
- ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed. To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page. |
This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 67 discussions have been relisted.
August 7, 2024
- (Discuss) – Noble women → Noblewomen – This is usually one word. See for example the entry in the online Cambridge Dictionary. It also makes it clear that it's referring to the term noblewomen and not women who are noble in some other way. Mclay1 (talk) 09:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israeli allegations against UNRWA → UNRWA and Israel – This request follows previous lengthy discussions and a rough consensus as to whether there should be a separate page covering the relationship between Israel and UNRWA. This entails a spin out of relevant material from the main UNRWA article, already in hand, to be added to this article. The change in scope is simply that all of Israel relations with UNRWA, which take up much unnecessary space at the main page, will be covered here rather than merely the recently concluded spat. Selfstudier (talk) 08:56, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty → Pratihara dynasty – Please move Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty to Pratihara dynasty or Imperial Pratiharas because Gujara Pratihara is not a common name used for this dynasty see WP:COMMONNAME Ngram. Pratihara dynasty is the most used word for this dynasty followed by Imperial Pratiharas. Moreover, this title of the page Gurjara Pratihara triggers the recent Rajput-Gujjar conflict regarding the origin of Pratihara dynasty. Raged Pratihar (talk) 05:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kaveen Bandara → Kavin Bandara – The correct name is Kavin Bandara and not Kaveen Bandara, which may mislead readers. The current name is incorrect and does not reflect the individual's actual name, potentially causing confusion and misinformation. Correcting the name to Kavin Bandara ensures accuracy and reliability of information for all readers ... GanganaB (talk) 04:32, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MTV Video Music Award for Best Video with a Social Message → MTV Video Music Award for Video for Good – This category has been known as "Video for Good" since 2019, and I think it doesn't make sense for its Wikipedia page to still have its outdated title of "Video with a Social Message", so I think this page's title should be updated to better match what it's known by now and not by its title for 10-11 years ago. 2603:6081:893D:13AC:485A:9DFF:D903:7929 (talk) 04:32, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
August 6, 2024
- (Discuss) – Gandhi (disambiguation) → Gandhi – While Mahatma Gandhi is no doubt a legendary figure in world politics, it is hard to say he's the overwhelming topic of the name “Gandhi” to qualify for WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Two former Indian Prime Ministers also bared this surname, along with some very notable and contemporary politicians, meaning such there are also differing usages in contemporary times.
According to wmcloud for the past 30 days, Mahatma Gandhi has gotten around 305,000 views. Rahul Gandhi around 187,000, Indira 178,000, Rajiv 91,000, Feroze 88,000 and Sonia 65,000 among others. This shows that even though Mahatma Gandhi is a likely subject when looking up Gandhi, it is not the primary topic which views and notability are significantly and definitively ahead of all other topics combined. A quick look on the “news’’ section on Google with the term Gandhi appears to be also primarily about other Gandhis such as Rahul instead of Mahatma.
For the reasons above, it is in my belief that the term "Gandhi" should be the disambiguation page instead of redirecting to Mahatma. Zinderboff(talk) 21:14, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – What's up → What's up? – This phrase is naturally a question, so it should be punctuated as a question. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Langley, British Columbia (city) → Langley, British Columbia – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. These two cities can be considered to be primary ahead of the eponymous Langley, British Columbia (district municipality) and North Vancouver, British Columbia (district municipality). The cities' articles also get roughly double the pageviews of their respective district municipality article. MOS:CANPLACE does not recommend disambiguation using "(city)", and, as far as I can tell, these are the only two Canadian articles that use it. Note that these moves would also affect Category:Langley, British Columbia (city) and Category:North Vancouver (city). 162 etc. (talk) 19:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Platanus × acerifolia → Platanus × hispanica – the oldest valid name for this hybrid. Accepted as such by POWO and others. Long overdue here; Wikispecies, Commons, and many/most other wikipedias followed this several years ago. - MPF (talk) 19:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 United Kingdom riots → 2024 England riots – Per discussion under “Requested move 4 August 2024”, starting this new formal move request. 99% of the riots have been in England, and, moreover, all over England, and so we should reflect this in the article title. It is erroneous to imply this is a UK-wide phenomenon when it is not. In 2011, there was also some disorder in Wales, but the page is still called 2011 England riots. If 99% of this year’s riots had taken place in Scotland and 1% in Northern Ireland, the article would not be called 2024 United Kingdom riots. The riots are not any more “United Kingdom-ish” because England is the biggest of the UK nations. Half of the UK‘s nations have not had any disorder to speak of, and one has only had a small amount (which we can still cover under an “Elsewhere” heading). Kennethmac2000 (talk) 19:32, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jasper wildfire → 2024 Jasper wildfire – Perhaps moving the article to that name or 2024 Jasper wildfires (note the s at the end), many people would probably search Jasper Fire and be brought to the other unrelated article. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 18:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Signal (messaging app) → Signal (instant messenger) – Signal isn't just an app, it's a whole service. So calling it messaging app is misleading. Instant messenger is a more accurate term. Sucrehypsy (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Guy She Was Interested In Wasn't a Guy at All → The Guy She Was Interested in Wasn't a Guy at All – Correcting capitalization per MOS:AT and MOS:TITLECAPS. This title is on the local or global move blacklist. DocWatson42 (talk) 12:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 1976 British Isles heatwave → 1976 United Kingdom heatwave – This article, like other articles on so-called "British Isles heatwaves" focus almost entirely on the United Kingdom. There's nothing wrong with that, but it pushes the logical thought should this page not be titled "1976 United Kingdom heatwave"? Ireland is mentioned in only one sentence. The page is entirely about effects on the United Kingdom. Even the section on "Government response" is entirely UK by default, as if Ireland had no government response. It makes sense to rename this page, and move the one sentence on County Offaly to the European page for 1976. Copying my comment from above on this talk page. Thank you. Wikiejd2 (talk) 17:25, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ecolego → AFRY Intelligent Scenario Modelling – The software described in this article has changed its name to AFRY Intelligent Scenario Modelling. Note that I have a conflict of interest because I am an employee of AFRY, which is the developer of the product described in this article I am proposing to move. Boriswe (talk) 16:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Korean table d'hôte → Hanjeongsik – See #Don't love the title... above; "table d'hôte" is somewhat opaque to even many English speakers. If you're familiar with Korean cuisine, there's a good chance you know about hanjeongsik using that terminology; it's seen as pretty quintessential in Korean dining, and even available abroad outside Korea to an extent that many other Korean dining concepts aren't. However, I'm on the fence about this move, think it could go either way. As for whether to use a hyphen in "han(-)jeongsik", I think no hyphen is more standard, per [4]. seefooddiet (talk) 13:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Xavi (footballer, born 1980) → Xavi Hernández – Neither Xavi nor Xavi Hernández is demonstrably the most frequently used by sources, but the latter is the better title because it's more WP:PRECISE and avoids the unnecessary disambiguation. Furthermore, on social media, Xavi Hernández is used as his name. Frost 10:28, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 'S Up → 's Up – There are no references in the article but both two external links (IMDb and BBC Two) use the lowercase "s", as well as Apple and Amazon. The lack of sources is probably worth sending to AfD, but that is a different issue. Gonnym (talk) 08:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – No net loss wetlands policy → No net loss policy in the United States – The page focuses only on the policy in the United States, even though these policies are now found worldwide and not necessarily just for wetlands. I think the page should be renamed 'No net loss policy in the United States' and then a separate page for 'No net loss policy' worldwide could be created because this article lacks a worldwide view. Manxshearwater (talk) 08:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Kirsty Bentley → Murder of Kirsty Bentley – Several of the articles titles reference murder and the coroners report stated it was blunt force trauma to the back of the head. Darrelljon (talk) 08:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 1 → Starship flight test 1 – SpaceX has not referred to these missions as "Starship integrated flight test #". They call the campaign "integrated flight testing" but the missions, Starship flight test, Starship's second flight test, Starship's third flight test and Starship’s fourth flight test. This presents us with an opportunity to rename and move these pages to a much simpler, shorter, more natural name. Other sources do call the missions "Starship Flight #, however, my concern is that this may interfere with any future mission naming and including flight test provides an easy, preemptive disambiguation. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 00:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:25, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 2 → Starship flight test 2
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 3 → Starship flight test 3
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 4 → Starship flight test 4
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 5 → Starship flight test 5
- SpaceX Starship integrated flight test 6 → Starship flight test 6
- (Discuss) – Passing lane → Lane discipline – It's only a "passing lane" in some areas, according to Wikipedia's own map. "Lane discipline" is the general term used when comparing laws, and is the term used as a section header on Driving in the United Kingdom. Jruderman (talk) 04:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hybrid instrument → Hybrid bill – The article is mostly about hybrid bills, and only explains hybrid instruments at the end, in terms of hybrid bills. In 2015 Scott renamed the page from Hybrid bill to Hybrid instrument on the basis that the latter was the "formal name", and search-replaced "bill" to "instrument" in the text. That is incorrect; a bill is a proposed act of parliament (primary legislation), whereas a statutory instrument is secondary legislation. In 2019 Adam37 effectively undid the search-replace but the article should be moved back to the name of the main topic. jnestorius(talk) 01:25, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luigi Rossi (1867-1941) → Luigi Rossi (politician) – or Luigi Rossi (jurist). My main goal is to get rid of the improperly-hyphenated date range. See Luigi Rossi (disambiguation). I see that Luigi Rossi di Montelera was also a politician, but was he known simply as "Luigi Rossi"? — BarrelProof (talk) 00:15, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
August 5, 2024
- (Discuss) – Bird Island, South Georgia → Bird Island (South Georgia) – Consistent form of disambiguation with other islands in the group and per guidelines at WP:PLACEDAB. Turnagra (talk) 23:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 2pou (talk) 23:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luxon → Luxon (disambiguation) – Redirect to Christopher Luxon per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. With very few alternative individuals and terms with this name. Christopher Luxon the Prime Minister of New Zealand seems to be the clear primary topic for such name. Zinderboff(talk) 10:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 21:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bolognese sauce → Bolognese ragù – for consistency (see Neapolitan ragù). JacktheBrown (talk) 19:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sleeman Centre (Guelph) → Sleeman Centre – The venue in Brisbane is commonly and officially known as "Sleeman Sports Complex". "Sleeman Centre" is unambiguous. Also recommend deleting the dabpage; hatnotes at the articles are sufficient. 162 etc. (talk) 19:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sleeman Centre → Sleeman Centre (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Sleeman Centre (Brisbane) → Sleeman Sports Complex
- (Discuss) – 2MASS J10475385+2124234 → 2MASS J1047+21 – Make shorter (WP:PRECISE, WP:CONCISE). A number of digits far higher than necessary. New title is more natural, more recognizable, less precise, but much more concise. Almost perfectly meeting WP:CRITERIA. 21 Andromedae (talk) 19:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jota (footballer, born 1999) → Jota (footballer, born March 1999) – There is a chance that Jota Silva, who was also born in 1999, may be referred to as "Jota" while reading through reports about him (there's already one here). Like a few years ago when Jota (Spanish footballer) was titled as Jota (footballer) and had to be moved because Diogo Jota was also referred as Jota after first mentions in related news articles. Hence, Jota (footballer, born 1999) could also be classed as pdab. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – German Taurus controversy → Proposed German supply of Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine – This is a title that would feel more common for English Wikipedia to me, even if the article is a translation from German Wikipedia. The current title is vague and when looking it up in Google I only get a link to German Taurus leak and to news websites, not to this article. This sequence of words, or the word controversy, do not seem to be commonly used among English-language media outlets, so we can create here a descriptive title if it is deemed more appropriate. Super Ψ Dro 00:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blendo Games → Brendon Chung – I cannot find much evidence Blendo Games passes WP:NCORP. However, its sole developer Brendon Chung does appear to pass WP:NARTIST due to his game development efforts and recognition. He got a major profile in Kill Screen and an article focused on him in Vice magazine. I suggest the article be moved and modified somewhat to focus primarily on him. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mary Manning (photographer) → Lee Mary Manning – This artist now goes by the name Lee Mary Manning.[1][2][3]
References
- Infopetal (talk) 16:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 16:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Non è la RAI → Non è la Rai – see this discussion. JacktheBrown (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rose Hanbury → Rose Cholmondeley, Marchioness of Cholmondeley – Per WP:NCBRITPEER. While tabloids call her by her maiden name, she is otherwise referred, both officially and in non-tabloid papers, as the Marchioness of Cholmondely or Lady Cholmondely and so on. For example, Diana is usually called Princess Di or Lady Di or Diana Spencer but her official title and the title of her article is Diana, Princess of Wales. The current Princess of Wales is commonly called Kate Middleton but her article is title in "Catherine, Princess of Wales". Same with Meghan Markle. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Home improvement (disambiguation) → Home Improvement – The header Home Improvement already redirects to Home improvement (disambiguation) and all the entries (except one) listed upon the disambiguation page use uppercase "I". As for the putative WP:PRIMARYTOPIC with the lowercased "i" — "Home improvement" — it is not even the sole term for this type of activity — "Home renovation", which redirects to it, could serve equally well as the article's main header. The lowercase primary topic / uppercase dab page are exemplified by the frequently-referenced header Red meat / Red Meat or the still-active Saddle tramp / Saddle Tramp nomination at Talk:Saddle tramp (person)#Requested move 8 July 2024. If consensus were to prefer a separate Home improvement / Home renovation header and an uppercase Home Improvement (disambiguation) page with Home Improvement (TV series) as the primary topic, as exemplified by Iron maiden paired with Iron Maiden serving as the primary topic of the Iron Maiden (disambiguation) page on which all entries (except the one for the torture device) use an uppercase "M", I would support such an alternative option, which was not approved 20 months ago at Talk:Home Improvement (TV series)#Requested move 18 November 2022. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 14:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – General Assemblies of Álava → General Assembly of Álava – The first two were moved without discussion to their current titles. While indeed their official names in Spanish and Basque are grammatically plural (Juntas Generales and Batzar Nagusiak), English sources seem to prefer the singular form. The singular form is used in English by the the Basque Government, a website operated by the government of Biscay and various scholarly books ([5], [6]). The websites of the Juntas Generales of Biscay and Gipuzkoa use the singular and plural forms rather inconsistently (Biscay, Gipuzkoa), the website of the Juntas Generales of Álava doesn't have an English version. As for the third article, it makes sense to keep the title plural, but the disambiguator shouldn't be the Spanish name. Santi2222 (talk) 13:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – IOC Refugee Olympic Team at the 2020 Summer Olympics → Refugee Olympic Team at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Hey all! I believe this article title should be simplified for a couple of reasons: # Concision: Per WP:CONCISE, we need to balance brevity with sufficient information. IOC Refugee Olympic Team may be the official name of the team, which was the rationale for the move to the current title, but I see absolutely no reason to essentially say "Olympics" three times in this title. # Consistency: WP:CONSISTENT says article titles should be consistent among similar articles. The team and their participation in 2016 and 2024 all start their titles with
Refugee Olympic Team at
while this is the only article starting with IOC Refugee Olympic Team at. I think this is a very clear case for both of these policy sections, but I would like to check for consensus from the community. Fire away! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 03:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Olympic Games scandals and controversies → List of Olympic Games scandals, controversies and incidents – Munich massacre, Death of Nodar Kumaritashvili, Centennial Olympic Park bombing is not a controversy. HaydenWong (talk) 15:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 15:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – NRA (disambiguation) → NRA – The disambiguation page was moved from NRA to the explicit DAB in 2018 based on the BOLD consensus of two editors, with "NRA" redirected to National Rifle Association (of America) as "Primary Topic". Primary Topic-ing a Three-Letter-Acronym is not unheard of (e.g. NBA) but it is very unusual and requires exceptional evidence. It certainly requires more than:
This is basically "What first comes to mind" and represents a Systemic bias violation, which should be reconsidered per WP:GLOBALISE. Wikinav shows that a clear 35% of traffic to "NRA (disambiguation)" comes from "National Rifle Association", and 75% of outbound traffic is to National Recovery Administration. This suggests a non-trivial number of users are being erroneously sent to "National Rifle Association" via overzealous redirects. Pageview stats show that "National Rifle Association" very narrowly has the highest monthly avg over the past two years, but is not consistently the most-viewed article (in June 2024 "National Rifle Association" had 12800 views, second to "National Revolutionary Army" with 15300). * National Rifle Association: ~20,000/mo * National Republican Army (Russia): ~17,000/mo * National Revolutionary Army: ~15,000/mo * National Recovery Administration: ~5,000/mo. National Rifle Association is top, but not overwhelmingly so - far less than the next two articles combined. The current redirect does not fit with the normal considerations for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The current redirect clearly does not satisfy WP:PT1 for Usage since it's usage does not reliably exceed other topics even individually, much less "all the other topics combined". It might be argued that it qualifies under WP:PT2 for Significance, but the pageview data indicates this is probably a US/anglophone-centric projection since the next two topics are Chinese and Russian in origin. Even within the US, the dominance of the National Rifle Association is context-specific since other orgs have major local significance - e.g. the National Restaurant Association is known as "the other NRA" in Washington DC lobbyist circles and is nationally significant, even if it gets fewer column inches in the NYT. Likewise, other National Rifle Associations (in the United Kingdom, India, Pakistan, Australia and New Zealand) are variously referred to as "the NRA" locally. Perhaps surprisingly, there really isn't enough here to justify "National Rifle Association" (of America) as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term "NRA". Hemmers (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)The NRA is in the news a lot, around the world, with increasing coverage in recent times. Wouldn't it make sense to redirect the page to National Rifle Association...
- (Discuss) – ABO Wind → ABO Energy – The company changed its name from ABO Wind to ABO Energy in July 2024. That's why the article should be moved. You can find evidence of the name change on aboenergy.com. CarPi24 (talk) 12:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Levomethamphetamine → Levmetamfetamine – Levmetamfetmaine is the I.N.N., it's the term used by both the Food and Drug Administration and the Drug Enforcement Administration (the two regulatory bodies that involved in its therapeutic regulation in the only country it is marketed in, the United States), and it's also the term used by United States Pharmacopeia (which produces the reference standards used for evaluating the purity of levmetamfetamine therapeutics and USP listings are explicitly recognized by law in the United States) Irruptive Creditor (talk) 03:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 11:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian territories → Occupied Palestinian Territory – This terminology has become standard across all official sources, the United Nations, itself and in its resolutions, and at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), in 2004 and reaffirmed in 2024, the EU and in many secondary sources. The ICJ concluded that the West Bank and Gaza are a single territorial unit: However, the Court recalls that, from a legal standpoint, the Occupied Palestinian Territory constitutes a single territorial unit, the unity, contiguity and integrity of which is to be preserved and respected. Thus, all references in this Opinion to the Occupied Palestinian Territory are references to this single territorial unit. Although still used in sources, and should remain as an aka, the existing title is currently an anachronism. Note that the OPT is also equivalent geographically to the area claimed by the State of Palestine. Selfstudier (talk) 10:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wyatt (disambiguation) → Wyatt – This is a misplaced disambiguation page. In 2016 the page "Wyatt" was split into a surname and a given name page, and moved to Wyatt (surname) with comment "Split given name and surname, and seems more appropriate to call this page 'surname' now", leaving "Wyatt" as a redirect to it, and leaving this long-established dab page at its disambiguated title. There are enough placenames and other uses that there seems no obvious primary topic, so this dab page should be at the base title. PamD 09:28, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Suspicious deaths of notable Russians (2022–2024) → Suspicious deaths of notable Russians in 2022–2024 – It is a weird style choice to use parenthesis here, which are usually used for disambiguation. PhotographyEdits (talk) 08:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Makar → Makar (poet) – I'm not able to find any indication that the Scottish term for a poet is the primary topic over everything else on the dab page. Google Scholar, books etc. only give results for people with the name. There is also a sizable Nepalese town by this name. (t · c) buidhe 07:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ernie Johnson Jr. → Ernie Johnson (sportscaster) – Revert undiscussed move. No evidence that he is commonly known as "Ernie Johnson Jr." 162 etc. (talk) 00:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 07:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ernie Johnson Sr. → Ernie Johnson (pitcher) – Revert undiscussed move. No evidence that he is commonly known as "Ernie Johnson Sr." 162 etc. (talk) 00:02, 5 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 07:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Museum of London → London Museum – Rebrand from "Museum of London" to "London Museum" has taken place: Official site as well as [7], [8]. Docklands Museum is already using new name as per [9]. This move would override a dab page at London Museum, but that is acceptable since there are 2 links on that page: 1 for this museum and one for London Museum (1912–1976). If this page move is done, then the dab page would not be needed as a hatnote to the former museum would suffice. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- London Museum → London Museum (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Museum of London Docklands → London Museum Docklands
- (Discuss) – Shwekey → Yaakov Shwekey – He is commonly known by his full name, not just his surname. Yeshivish613 (talk) 00:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Yeshivish613 (talk) 00:12, 29 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 07:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lipiodol → Iodized oil – Generic name as with most other drug articles we use the generic not the tradename and Lipidol is a tradename so it should be moved as this article talks about all brands not just Lipidol brand Isla🏳️⚧ 21:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 07:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Olimpiyskiy National Sports Complex → Olympic Stadium (Kyiv) – Per WP:UE and WP:COMMONNAME. English-language sources most commonly use "Olympic Stadium" when referring to this venue. 162 etc. (talk) 06:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gangwon Province (Korea) → Gangwon Province, Korea – The parentheses imply a disambiguation, but there's no other country in the world with a Gangwon Province. This new title matches the formatting of the descendent split provinces of Gangwon Province, South Korea and Kangwon Province, North Korea. Note that Gangwon Province existed during the Joseon and Korean Empire periods, so Gangwon Province, Joseon wouldn't/shouldn't work. seefooddiet (talk) 05:29, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mischievous Twins: The Tales of St. Clare's → The Twins at St. Clare's (anime) – English title, per TMS' global website. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
August 4, 2024
- (Discuss) – Landing Ship, Tank → Tank landing ship – The military likes to list things by major category first, followed by modifier. The normal English way of referring to these things is actually more common in independent sources (some in all sources), and is more recognizable to most non-military readers than the backwards way that the military likes for list alphabetizing. None of these are proper names, as evidenced by frequent lowercase usage in sources. Example, from a Life magazine photo caption in 1943: "Boat is an infantry landing craft, carrying about 200 men. Offshore is tank landing ship." Another, from British War Production, H.M. Stationery Office, 1952: "It was, however, the tank landing craft, not the tank landing ship, that was to form the backbone of the British programmes of 1942 and 1943." I will add book n-gram stats for each, to compare both word order and case. Dicklyon (talk) 22:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Landing craft tank → Tank landing craft
- Landing Craft Infantry → Infantry landing craft
- Landing Craft Assault → Assault landing craft
- Landing craft mechanized → Mechanized landing craft
- Landing Craft Utility → Utility landing craft
- Landing Craft Support → Support landing craft
- Landing Ship Medium → Medium landing ship
- (Discuss) – Maxi Klotzer → Maxi Klötzer – official name with ö 109.38.146.182 (talk) 21:33, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 South Korean doctors' strike → 2024 South Korean medical crisis – (1) "Crisis" is much used in both mass media[10][11] and academic sources.[12][13] (2) Precision: This involves not only trainee doctors, but also great number of med students.[14][15] The name "doctors' stirke" cannot include this activity of med students, becuase med students are not "doctors". Y-S.Ko (talk) 21:19, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – YIMBY movement → YIMBY – Consistency with NIMBY. I see no reason why one is a "movement" and the other is not. HudecEmil (talk) 11:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Waqar💬 20:18, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Henry Aaron → Henry Aaron (disambiguation) – Move per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Hank Aaron is the primary topic so Henry Aaron should be redirected to that. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gannavaram, Vijayawada → Gannavaram – Gannavaram has its own jurisdiction, inspector. - https://krishna.ap.gov.in/public-utility/gannavaram/. A simple template can be added to make readers understand that this Gannavaram is in Krishna dt. Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence → Jewish Genius Stereotype – Multiple sourcing argues that racial and ethnic differences cannot directly correlate to intelligence (I know Ashkenazi Jew is not a race, but race is arbitrary and many of the studies that disprove racial intelligence also disprove ethnic intelligence)). We should be honest and discuss this topic as is, as a stereotype that is part of a long line of work that is connected to Race and Intelligence — Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:58, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Megaworld Corporation → Megaworld – Common name. See MOS:TM. Ahri Boy (talk) 15:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – M6 Bomb Service Truck → M6 bomb service truck – Per WP:MILCAPS, "When using a numerical model designation, the word following the designation should be left uncapitalized (for example, "M16 rifle" or "M109 howitzer") unless it is a proper noun." Here, "bomb service truck" is not a proper noun, as evidenced by its frequent (and majority) lowercase occurrence in sources (see book n-grams statistics. Dicklyon (talk) 15:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Abdullah al-Derazi and Youssef al-Manasif → Arrest of Abdullah al-Derazi and Youssef al-Manasif – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. GnocchiFan (talk) 15:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vijayawada Airport → Vijayawada International Airport – Why not Vijayawada International Airport when it is commonly referred to as Vijayawada International Airport? Proposing move. Inviting inputs. Thewikizoomer (talk) 19:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 07:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Queen of Hearts talk 14:40, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – East Asian age reckoning → Age reckoning in the Sinosphere – Rationale explained here: Talk:Sinosphere#Pages using "East Asia" in place of the Sinosphere and in this longer post. Tl;dr, "East Asia" often excludes Vietnam, which is also a part of the Sinosphere. Related previous move discussions that passed: Seals in the Sinosphere and Sixtieth birthday in the Sinosphere. Open to more suggested titles. Alternates: # Sinosphere age reckoning #* I think a little confusing; may suggest trying to determine the age of the Sinosphere itself. # Traditional age reckoning in the Sinosphere #* This is more precise I feel; currently, as far as I'm aware, the entire Sinosphere no longer uses the age reckoning for major applications, mostly just ceremonial. "Age reckoning in x" can be interpreted as a present and not mostly past practice 104.232.119.107 (talk) 10:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:38, 28 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Queen of Hearts talk 14:34, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rolls-Royce Holdings → Rolls-Royce – Currently Rolls-Royce Holdings plc is the main Rolls-Royce company (it owns Rolls-Royce plc) while Rolls-Royce Motor Cars is a spin-off and the predecessor companies aren’t the main topic. For these reasons I think the current Rolls-Royce disambiguation page should be moved to Rolls-Royce (disambiguation) and this page should be moved to Rolls-Royce. Adriazeri (talk) 13:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kalinago genocide → Kalinago genocide of 1626 – The current title fails WP:PRECISION. Multiple RS assert that the Kalinago were subjected to a much wider campaign of genocide throughout the 1600s and all across the Caribbean. See inter alia Honychurch's article The Kalinago Fight for Oüaladli and Oüahómoni, as well as Buser's "Colonial Injustices and the Law of State Responsibility" (in article). TRCRF22 (talk) 13:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Register (sociolinguistics) → Socio-linguistic register – Parenthetical disambiguation, as used today, is kind of a last resort. Sociolinguistic is a bit squished for new readers, so I prefer a hyphen for first use, including in the title and lead sentence. I want the title to be easily parsed by readers who have not heard the term "Sociolinguistic" before, or even the prefix "Socio-". Simply Linguistic does not disambiguate enough: see Register (disambiguation)#Linguistics. Register as a base name does not meet my understanding of WP:COMMONNAME; I understand it as requiring the low-context variant (i.e. not the term used in the middle sections of papers in the field). As long as the full term is used in the titles of some papers in the field, I believe the full term should be considered to meet WP:COMMONNAME. And, well... this full name is used in the bodies of some papers, at least. And "linguistic register" is used in plenty of paper titles, but we've ruled that out for other reasons. My understanding of WP:COMMONNAME seems to be borne out by success in move discussions I started: from "Inflation (cosmology)" to "Cosmic inflation"; from "Transformation (genetics)" to "Genetic transformation". But I think it's time for me to start a discussion on the MOS talk page itself about this "low context vs high context" thing, since it may exist only in my mind at the moment, or as a non-obvious implication of other core CRITERIA for article titles. All that said, I believe Socio-linguistic register is the best title for this article. The hyphen or entire prefix can and should be dropped for most subsequent uses within the article. Jruderman (talk) 04:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
August 3, 2024
- (Discuss) – Tadepalle, Vijayawada → Tadepalli – According to the sources, Tadepalli is located in the capital region of Andhra Pradesh and it is a seperate town having its own municipality. However this article was unilaterally moved - https://cdma.ap.gov.in/en/about-tadepalli-municipality Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Roller in-line hockey → Inline hockey – Last discussed in 2018. Reliable sources refer to this sport as either "roller hockey" or "inline hockey", but almost never "roller in-line hockey". Proposed title is good WP:NATURAL disambiguation. The lack of hyphen (which was a sticking point at the previous RM) is consistent with Category:Inline hockey, Inline skating, and Inline skates. 162 etc. (talk) 17:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cockfight → Cockfighting – A cockfight is merely an instance of cockfighting. It seems that we generally title comparable sports or activities of this type at their gerund form, e.g., Cricket fighting, Dog fighting, Ram fighting, Spider fighting, Boxing, Wrestling, Kickboxing, Shootfighting, Bull riding, Bull wrestling, Camel wrestling. BD2412 T 20:04, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – WarnerMedia → Time Warner – When considering the WP:COMMONNAME of a defunct entity, we must consider its entire existence. This company was known as "Time Warner" from 1990 until 2018 (including a span as "AOL Time Warner" 2001–2003), but as "WarnerMedia" for less than 4 years. 162 etc. (talk) 19:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Edmundo González Urrutia → Edmundo González – Most sources refer to the subject as Edmundo González instead of his full name. Even Spanish Wikipedia refers to him as Edmundo González. Zinderboff(talk) 16:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Edmundo González → Edmundo González (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Olympic Park, Montreal → Olympic Park (Montreal) – Parentheses are used for North American places. 162 etc. (talk) 16:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Northern Ireland Social and Political Archive → ARK (Northern Ireland social policy hub) – This article isn't at the right title: "Northern Ireland Social and Political Archive" isn't even mentioned. Open to better suggestions (although ARK (website) may be ambiguous). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sakura Wars (video game) → Sakura Wars (1996 video game) – It shares a name with Sakura Wars (2019 video game) and WP:NCVGDAB states video game pages with the same name should be differentiated with its release year. I'd move it myself if weren't for that the page actually was "Sakura Wars (1996 video game)" before it's moved back to "Sakura Wars (video game)", so this is a potentially controversial move. Au such, a discussion process seems required. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 12:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ys (Joanna Newsom album) → Ys (album) – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. As far as I can tell, Wikipedia has no other articles about other albums named Ys (see the current Ys (album) disambiguation page). Popcornfud (talk) 12:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Greek love → Cultural impact of Classical Greek homoeroticism – The phrase "greek love" is misleading. An alternative option would then be to e.g. move it to "greek love (idiom)", but that too wouldn't be as precise as this previous title - which is now a redirect - used to be. Biohistorian15 (talk) 10:24, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Family tree of Chinese monarchs (ancient) → Family tree of Chinese monarchs (before 256 BCE) – Likewise: * (early) → (221 BCE – 453 CE) * (middle) → (453–1279) * (late) → (1279–1912) I know each of these boundaries are problematic (Genghis Khan is included in "late" for example, but frankly the core of it is correct and it would help guide readers much better than "early", "middle", and "late". The current Remsense诉 09:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 13 July 2024 Al-Mawasi airstrikes → 13 July 2024 al-Mawasi attack – For some reason this article was opened separately from this article: 2024 targeted assassination of Muhammad Deif. But since it has already been written, I recommend specifying the date of the attack to a specific day. Galamore (talk) 19:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 06:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jean Kelly (disambiguation) → Jean Kelly – The actress' stage name is not simply "Jean Kelly", but Jean Louisa Kelly per her website, IMDb, Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, Twitter, etc. No need for redirecting Jean Kelly to Jean Louisa Kelly when it can serve as the dab page base name. Anyone searching for her as "Jean Kelly" or for Jeanne Kelly, the early stage name of actress Jean Brooks, or even users who might mistype Gene Kelly as "Jean Kelly", will find all those links directly upon the proposed Jean Kelly dab page without having to go through Jean Louisa Kelly. Four years and eight months ago, above, there were four "support" votes and four "oppose", resulting in "no consensus". — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 15:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 02:48, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Oregon Theatre → Oregon Theater – The spellings "theater" and "theatre" are not quite interchangeable. In theory, "theater" is the American spelling while "theatre" is the British spelling. In practice, the British spelling is often used in the US – mostly, I suspect, because it looks more refined to the American eye. So either spelling is "correct," but this article should use the spelling the theater itself used: "Oregon Theater." Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 01:28, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Josef Ng → Brother Cane (performance) – Ng fails BLP1E; this article should be renamed (and rescoped) from the person to the notable event he was involved in, which is already what the majority of the article talks about. I'm not a fan of "performance" as a disambiguator, but I couldn't come up with anything better. Queen of Hearts talk 01:03, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – L 97-12 → Gliese 293 – According to WP:STARNAMES, for stars that have no Bayer or Flamsteed designations, the Henry Draper Catalogue (HD) number, variable-star designation or the Gliese number should be used for the article name about the star. As L 97-12 has no HD number or Variable-star designation, the name Gliese 293 should be used. The current name is only slightly more used than the proposed name, but is also harder to search. 21 Andromedae (talk) 22:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. The Night Watch (talk) 00:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
August 2, 2024
- (Discuss) – Kamala → Kamala (disambiguation) – Kamala Harris is the primary topic at this point pbp 23:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Coffeeshop Mellow Yellow → Mellow Yellow (coffeeshop) – Per sources cited in article, simply known as "Mellow Yellow". 162 etc. (talk) 21:59, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Olympic Pool, Montreal → Olympic Pool (Montreal) – Parentheses are used for North American places. 162 etc. (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 21:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Uglies → Uglies (2024 film) – Film's title has been shortened, as per What's on Netflix, IMDb, Deadline etc. There's already a novel at Uglies, which this film appears to be based on (I'm not sure though) and I leave it to others to decide if it needs to go to Uglies (novel) or the like and a disambiguation created. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 19:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Oleksandr Oliynyk → Oleksandr Mikolayovich—Oliynik – Full surname is needed. 5.43.65.30 (talk); 18:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James Bye (actor) → James Bye – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, showed by page views and search engine results. The actor is more notable than the footballer. FishLoveHam (talk) 17:56, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- James Bye → James Bye (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – LOR → Lor – Per WP:DABNAME: "A word is preferred to an abbreviation, for example Arm (disambiguation) over ARM". Here, there are numerous senses for "Lor" on the page, and Lor already redirects here. BD2412 T 17:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Human Genome Project → Sequencing of the human genome – I have been in contact with a smart person who, during high school, heard that "The human genome project has been completed" and decided that genetics was no longer worth pursuing. This kind of confusion is really bad on the Precision criterion for article titles. Also, the HGP benefited from genetics research not done explicitly under the banner of HGP. For these two reasons, I believe that a WP:NATURAL title would be more appropriate than the current WP:COMMONNAME title. Ideally we will select a name so natural that it can work as an unpiped link in prose, such as Sequencing of the human genome or alternatively Initial mapping of the human genome. Of these two natural titles, "sequencing" is shorter, more accurate, and already a redirect to this article. Jruderman (talk) 16:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita → Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita, 2023 – As per the earlier request, now that the bill is passed and the Act is live. - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bharatiya_Nyaya_Sanhita,_2023&oldid=1189635548 Thewikizoomer (talk) 06:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 10:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 16:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luciano (singer) → Luciano (Jamaican singer) – Dab from Luciano (Brazilian singer). Sometimes we count topics without standalone articles less for disambiguation purposes, but I think one half of a musical duo is a big enough deal to not be worth doing so. And there's also Luciano (rapper), whose article claims only in the infobox he's a singer, to confuse matters further. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Awda School massacre → July Abasan al-Kabira airstrike – The current descriptive title is inaccurate, and violates WP:NCENPOV. The airstrike took place outside the school, and few sources refer to it as a massacre. The proposed descriptive title is more compliant with both WP:CRITERIA and WP:NPOV BilledMammal (talk) 14:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Venezuelan protests → 2024 Venezuelan unrest – "Not only there are peaceful demonstrations, but civil unrest and violence in between." SpringField23402 (talk) 22:14, 30 July 2024 -- Viva Nicolás (talk) 13:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Salem station → Salem station, Massachusetts – This is not the primary topic for Salem station, since Salem Junction railway station in India is. Salem Junction is usually simply referred to as Salem station as Salem Town and Salem Market stations are much smaller and not nearly as used. For instance, in this The Hindu article talking about the redevelopment works it says Salem railway station, and this Hindustan Times article about a train robbery. To support the claim Salem Junction in India is the primary topic, if we look at the pageview stats, Salem Junction, TN gets about 4-10x the page views than Salem station, MA regularly and has about 25x the passenger usage. In terms of historical significance, both are pretty old, however the fact that Salem Junction is a much bigger and busier station than Salem station, MA and has many more page views makes me think it should be the primary topic, or at the very least Salem, MA should not be the primary topic. Therefore I think WP:PT1. Propose redirecting Salem station to Salem Junction railway station. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? -
uselesscontributions} 09:48, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Orders of magnitude (magnetic field) → Orders of magnitude (magnetic flux density) – I would move the page myself, but there is currently a redirect. The page does not compare “magnetic fields” – e.g., Earth's magnetic field is much stronger than that of a neodymium magnet – but compares magnetic flux densities, measured in tesla, usually right above the magnet's surface. After the page has been moved the newly created redirect – "Orders of magnitude (magnetic field)" – can be edited to point to Orders of magnitude (magnetic moment) – which is closer to the measure of a magnetic field. Grufo (talk) 05:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ted Wilson (1943–2013) → Ted Wilson (ice skating) – More typical disambiguation format. — BarrelProof (talk) 08:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 03:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Doctor (Doctor Who) → The Doctor – The definite article 'the' in the title designates this topic as the primary one for 'The Doctor' (but only with the definite article). This is consistent with titles such as The Guardian, The Signpost, The Postal Service, The Edge, The 1975, and The Undertaker. A Google search for "The Doctor" returns results related to Doctor Who, as does a Google image search. Similarly, a Google News search returns Doctor Who-related coverage. While a search for "The Doctor" on JSTOR for produces variable results, a search for "The Guardian" on JSTOR wouldn't establish the newspaper as the primary topic alone. A Google Ngram analysis reveals that the term 'The Doctor' saw an increase in usage in 2005, coinciding with the show's revival. Worldwide Google Trends indicate that "The Doctor" is predominantly used in reference to searches about Doctor Who, per the 'related topics' and 'related searches'; with a notable peak in November 2013, coinciding with the show's 50th anniversary special. This 'The Doctor' (with the definite article) has more coverage from reliable sources than others (with the definite article) listed on the disambiguation page. Amendment: Pageview Analysis (with a date range of 'All time') comparing all of the pages titled 'The Doctor' show that this topic has more views by a clear margin. It is limited to 10 pages, so I've split it into two: first second. On Wikipedia this topic is the most sought after 'The Doctor' (with the definite article) on the entire site. Note: When researching, "The Doctor" should be enclosed in quotation marks as some databases often exclude definite articles. Svampesky (talk) 12:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC), amended 03:07, 02 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Collingwood Blues (2020–) → Collingwood Blues – The qualifying bookend "(2020–)" is unnecessary. The article relates to an existing ice hockey team. Collingwood Blues (1988–2011) is for the defunct team with the same name. The target page is currently a redirect. Buffalkill (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Collingwood Blues → Collingwood Blues (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Abdul Aleem Khan (Hyderabad politician) → Abdul Aleem Khanzada – I created the page based on initial election results reporting which carried his name wrong, multitude of sources now have surfaced which mention his name as Abdul Aleem Khanzada, such as [16], [17], [18], there are more, but I am listing only three for brevity. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:12, 2 August 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 02:52, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gargoyle → Gargoyle (architecture) – There's no obvious primary topic here between the architectural element, and the legendary and/or fictional monster of living stone. While the architectural element gets more views (approx. 700 daily vs. 200 daily), according to Wikinav, 20% of the people coming to this page click through to the monster one instead, indicating coming here was potentially accidental, making the difference a fair bit less (560 vs. 200 when you subtract from one). This is not far apart enough to indicate any primary topic existing at all. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Frozen → Frozen (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 00:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
August 1, 2024
- (Discuss) – Trois-Rivières Aigles → Trois-Rivières Aigles (1971–1977) – Thinking on it, long-term significance leans towards the current team being the primary topic as it's been around longer and has had much more coverage than the defunct affiliated minor league team that only played for seven years some decades ago. The current team has already lasted nearly twice as long as the old team, and shows no signs of going away anytime soon, so in my mind it's proven itself to be the most likely intended subject for someone looking up the team name. oknazevad (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of recipients of the Order of the Sword (2023–present) → List of recipients of the Order of the Sword – Until there are some other lists on Wikipedia that cover other periods of time, the identification of a time period is unnecessary disambiguation. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – René Binet (neo-Fascist) → René Binet – Two contenders have the same name; a minor translator and an architect who does no have an English article yet. The name is also a bit too specific and slightly besides the point (was apparently first a communist etc.). Biohistorian15 (talk) 19:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- René Binet → René Binet (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Air raids on Australia, 1942–1943 → Air raids on Australia – There was only one, see "Air raids on Japan" as format. Gryffindor (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Maurice Clenock → Morys Clynnog – Ngrams show that this has been the predominant form of his name in English-language sources since the 1950s. Ham II (talk) 18:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – David Long Jr. → David Long Jr. (linebacker) – To distinguish him from David Long Jr. (defensive back). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:20, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Saturday Night Live incidents → Saturday Night Live controversies and incidents – Been improving this one lately (I initially split off/created the page in 2015) and feel that this new title would be better these days. Not really a list article anymore although it does contain lists. I have expanded several sections with much prose and content/sourcing to be more encyclopaedic, and several sections were good already. I will continue improving but feel the new name would be better. Somewhat similar titles to the new proposal include BBC controversies and Controversial Reddit communities. StewdioMACK (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Te Deseo Lo Mejor → Te deseo lo mejor – Although the title with all caps is official on Disney+, in the original language (Spanish) the title is probably correct only with the first capital letter. Not sure what to choose. Patrik L. (talk) 12:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Syn and anti addition → Syn and anti addition and elimination – Inclusion of syn and anti elimination reactions. Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 15:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ABC News (United States) → ABC News –
This discussion was listed at Wikipedia:Move review on 4 July 2024. The result of the move review was no consensus, relisted.
* ABC News → ABC News (United States) * ABC News (disambiguation) → ABC News – Australia's ABC News is its national broadcaster and is its most widely watched newscast. The Australian broadcaster reaches 8 digit levels of people on a weekly basis, while the U.S. company averages around 7 million on nightly newscasts. And, in absolute terms, Australia's ABC is quite a major news organization. I don't think the U.S. subsidiary of Disney is more of a WP:PTOPIC here, so I propose moving this to the proposed target and moving ABC News (disambiguation) to take over this page's title. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. JuniperChill (talk) 20:32, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. —S Marshall T/C 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)I hereby relist this RM, which was originally listed on 18 June 2024. As there wasn't a consensus to overturn BilledMammal's previous close at the move review, I don't think it's right to move the page back to ABC News until this discussion reaches consensus. Leave it here until the RM has played out in full, please. —S Marshall T/C 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC) - ABC News → ABC News (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Bengawan Solo → Bengawan Solo (disambiguation) – Bengawan Solo should redirect to the article about the longest river on world's most populous island per "long-term significance" (WP:PTOPIC). Bengawan Solo (song) is the other notable topic (that is named after the river). The song draws more traffic: [[19]] but the difference isn't so vast that it trumps the "long-term significance" factor. Google Search seems to prefer Bengawan Solo (company) and the song but Google Books search gives more results for the river. Mika1h (talk) 15:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Magic realism → Magical Realism – "Magical Realism" is the most common term WP:COMMONNAME applies. See discussion in this section above, #'Magical' versus 'Magic' Realism, and the article itself. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 15:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC).
- (Discuss) – Dagö → Dagö (band) – The WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Dagö" seems to be the German/Swedish name of Hiiumaa, from which the band takes its name. See Google Books search for usage in English sources. After the move, Dagö should be made to redirect to Hiiumaa. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 12:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – No kid zone → No kid zone (South Korea) – Given the discussion above, at least two editors think that the article title is ambiguous enough to deserve disambiguation. I think that South Korea is clearly the primary topic (Google no kid zones and see the results) and that the hatnote that has now been placed in the article is sufficient. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Battle of Changsha (1939) → First Battle of Changsha – I am currently trying to rename four of the pages for battles called Battle of Changsha. These four articles are: Battle of Changsha (1939), Battle of Changsha (1941), Battle of Changsha (1941-1942) and Battle of Changsha (1944). This is because these four all occurred in the Second Sino-Japanese War, so it follows naming conventions for battles like Second Battle of Alamein. Also, as there are six articles called Battle of Changsha, so the current names of these four articles are not very helpful for finding the specific battle. However, because there is already a redirect page, I can't rename this article. Enoryt nwased lamaj (talk) 07:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. The Night Watch (talk) 08:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Interim Government of Mohammad Mokhber → Government of Mohammad Mokhber (May-July 2024) – Fits best with other government article names and is concise AlexBobCharles (talk) 07:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Václav Černý → Václav Černý (writer) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views Joeykai (talk) 07:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Carlos Zambrano → Carlos Zambrano (baseball) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views at [20] Joeykai (talk) 07:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nacho (disambiguation) → Nacho – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Nacho" per page views at [21] Joeykai (talk) 07:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Baek Jong-won → Paik Jong-won – This is the WP:COMMONNAME spelling and closer to what I think is his preferred spelling of "Paik Jong Won" (based on his YouTube channel, although the titles of his videos use a variety of spellings lol; probably hired translators). Common name proof: exact google news search for "Paik Jong-won" yields 381 results, and "Baek Jong-won" yields 300 results with more spurious results due to overlapping people names. I can't find evidence that the "Paik Jong Won" spelling is used much; news coverage of him tends to use "Paik Jong-won". 104.232.119.107 (talk) 06:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jack Jarvis → Jack Jarvis (racehorse trainer) – no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views at [22] Joeykai (talk) 06:37, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – R Vaishali → Vaishali Rameshbabu – This page used to be at Vaishali Rameshbabu. It was moved only because her brother's page was moved, even though this page was barely part of that discussion. Also at the time, Vaishali's name on her FIDE page was "Vaishali R". But since then, she changed her FIDE name to the full "Vaishali Rameshbabu", while her brother remains at "Praggnanandhaa R". In most cases, we set the page name on Wikipedia to be what it is on the FIDE website, so we should do that here. (From media sources, there is no clear preferred choice whether to abbreviate or not. Some abbreviate, others do not.) Sportsfan77777 (talk) 04:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Venezuelan presidential crisis → Venezuelan 2019–2023 presidential crisis – there's a newer crisis, the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election. fgnievinski (talk) 04:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Teenage Dream → Teenage Dream (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 02:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC) (edited 02:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC))
- (Discuss) – Paul Mullen → Paul Mullen (musician) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews at [23] Joeykai (talk) 01:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Truth About Love → The Truth About Love (disambiguation) – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews [24] estar8806 (talk) ★ 01:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – L'Île-aux-Marins → Île aux Marins –
1. The definite article "L'" ("L'Île")is not used in French except for some municipalities, but not for names of the acutal islands themselves.
2. The dashes are also not standard, although they are often seen. See the French version of this article. Keizers (talk) 00:47, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:21, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war → United States complicity in the Israel–Hamas war – I think the page name is too long. Any other suggestion is also welcome Astropulse (talk) 12:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chatsworth station → Chatsworth Transportation Center – In line with other station articles which use their formal names (ex: San Bernardino Transit Center, Fullerton Transportation Center, Irvine Transportation Center) which seems to be the general precedence for naming train station articles. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
July 31, 2024
- (Discuss) – 2020 Oregon House of Representatives election → 2020 Oregon State House of Representatives election – Similar to 2020 Oregon State Senate election if the senate race clarifies it is a state election and not a US senate then so should this to not confuse with 2020 United States House of Representatives elections in Oregon. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 23:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2022 Oregon House of Representatives election → 2022 Oregon State House of Representatives election – Similar to 2022 Oregon State Senate election if the senate race clarifies it is a state election and not a US Senate then so should this to not confuse with 2022 United States House of Representatives elections in Oregon. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 23:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aegukka → National Anthem of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea – After the DPRK's abandonment of unification, the title Aegukka seems to have fallen out of use at least on KCTV (first on the Hwasŏng Area completion event, and now the July 27 "victory" celebration), and Korean: 조선민주주의인민공화국 국가, lit. 'National Anthem of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea' has taken its place. On the other hand, the site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the DPRK, as well as the current constitution, still mentions that the national anthem is titled "애국가". Another reason of my proposal is due to the current title's possible confusion with the ROK's Aegukga, where currently neither title has a modifier, which may cause confusion to readers not familiar to the two romanization systems. OosakaNoOusama (talk) 22:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wild Boys → Wild Boys (TV series) – Per WP:DABNAME like Talk:Great Escape#Requested move 2 May 2021 there is no reason to have "The" in the title of the DAB page and the TV series has 438 views but the song has 2,907, the novel has 1,025, the film has 635 and the play has 2. Wildboyz has 2,583[[25]]. Per WP:SMALLDETAILS the absence of "The" probably doesn't distingish and most Google results are for the song not the TV series. The TV series could be moved to Wild Boys (Australian TV series) or Wild Boys (2011 TV series) due to the 2003 one but that is probably not nessesarry but I'll leave it as an option for discussion to see if it is needed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Calls for the destruction of Israel → Calls for the dissolution of the State of Israel – More WP:NEUTRAL and WP:PRECISE. Change loaded word 'destruction'—which suggests physical damage or violence, as if it were about a physical object and not a political formation—to the more NEUTRAL and PRECISE 'dissolution' as in Dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. Because this article is about calls for the dissolution of the state, change the ambiguous 'Israel' to 'State of Israel' to avoid conflation with בני ישראל (Bənēy Yīsrāʾēl 'children of Israel/Jacob'), a biblical metonym for Jewish people. Calls for the dissolution of a state are not calls for the eradication of a people; that would be a separate topic. إيان (talk) 20:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Oregon House of Representatives election → 2024 Oregon State House of Representatives election – Similar to 2024 Oregon State Senate election if the senate race clarifies it is a state election then so should this to not confuse with 2024 United States House of Representatives elections in Oregon. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Piecewise → Piecewise mathematical object – Per WP:NOUN. The adjective title is jarring. Previous discussion is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics/Archive/2024/Mar#Piecewise. Mathematical object should include everything, addressing concerns about the concept needing to cover piecewise linear manifold and piecewise linear curve 174.92.25.207 (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 20:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Joint Support Group → Defence Human Intelligence Unit – An article in the Telegraph indicates that the JSG has been renamed as the DHU. 13tez (talk) 19:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Meath → Meath (disambiguation) – I feel this page should become Meath (disambiguation) so Meath can be redirected to County Meath, as I’ve never seen “Meath” refer to anything but the county and most other Irish counties without eponymous county towns redirect to the county; not to mention how most other articles linked on this page are just less important articles related to the county. I realise the Kingdom of Meath page also sees traffic but there is a Kingdom of Leinster page too and yet Leinster leads to province and not historical kingdom. TwinBoo (talk) 17:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood → Robin Hood (1922 film) – Per WP:COMMONNAME, "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's official name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources) as such names will usually best fit the five criteria listed above." and per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films) "Common names – Sometimes, it is acceptable to use an alternative common name that is more concise or recognizable.". In all historical articles of the film I've read and most film databases, the film is known as "Robin Hood" not "Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood". The title alone makes it sound like a represetnation of acting in the film. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 17:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shin Hye-sun → Shin Hae-sun – With the continuing rise in popularity of actress <Shin Hae-sun>, the spelling of her English name has been up for debate for quite some time. Since her debut in School 2013, many have spelled her name as <Shin Hye-sun>; others have spelled it as <Shin Hae-sun> (a difference in Hye or Hae). In recent years, many have pointed out that her own signature and places like her agency (YNK Entertainment under IOK Company) spelled her name with Hae, yet, many sources continued to spell it as Hye since it was the most common spelling since her debut (Hye is also a common spelling amongst other Korean celebrities like Park Shin-hye and Kim Hye-yoon, adding to its credibility at the time). Here are some other reliable sources that correctly spells her name with Hae: KoBiz, The Korean Herald, Korea JoongAng Daily, and The Korea Times. It was only until last year that the actress added her English name to her Instagram account, spelling it herself as Hae. But due to the immense commonality of Hye across the internet, there wasn't a big change in how articles/sources/new fans spelled her name. As such, I am proposing that we change the spelling of her name to Hae, rather than Hye, as to fix the misinformation that is still at large. It is only right that we respect how the actress spells her own name. Imanomynous (talk) 22:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:50, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Oxo-biodegradation → Oxo-degradation – there's no biodegradation The RedBurn (ϕ) 16:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Haileybury and Imperial Service College → Haileybury (Hertfordshire) – The school's official name is Haileybury College altho it is commonly known as just Haileybury. Haileybury and Imperial Service College is a previous name no longer used Southdevonian (talk) 18:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Southdevonian (talk) 11:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) → Israel–Hezbollah war (2023–present) – It seems like an all out war now Hezbollah has struck in golan heights of israel killing 12 people and israel has struck inside beirut targeting a hezbollah commander so i think it is fair to call it a war not just a conflict anymore. [1] 173.72.3.91 (talk) 15:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Category 7 (band) → Category 7 – No other article with this name. Jax 0677 (talk) 14:26, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – José Torres → José Torres (boxer) – No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC by long-term significance, and the boxer doesn't have more page views than the other pages combined. Ortizesp (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Paul Mullin (footballer, born 1994) → Paul Mullin – After featuring as a prominant part of the widely viewed "Welcome to Wrexham" series and now having featured as a cameo character in a $200mil film, it is clear that Paul Mullin is a pretty well recognised celebrity. In my opinion, this means that this Paul Mullin should definetly deserve primary status over a non-league footballer who may have done well in the lower levels, but definetly lacks enough relevance to force this Paul Mullin into having to have a disambiguation. WikiHmmmm... (talk) 12:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Paul Mullin → Paul Mullin (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
Elapsed listings
- (Discuss) – DART Light Rail → DART light rail – Since there isn't any official branding for the light rail system, isn't it improper to capitalize the "light rail" part of the name? Making it lowercase would be in line with systems such as the VTA light rail, the MBTA subway, and the Toronto subway systems, each of which lacks formal brandings. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 10:23, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Whau Lunatic Asylum → Carrington Hospital – Common name as shown by Google Scholar results where it's more than 5 times more common than names using Whau and more common than Oakley Hospital. The name Carrington Hospital is more common in Google News results, is used by the NZ encyclopaedia: [26] and is used by the Ministry of Urban Development in their Carrington development: [27] Recent sources use the name Carrington Hospital typically whilst historic sources use different versions of the old name. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nashville Metropolitan Transit Authority → WeGo Public Transit – Per WP:COMMONNAME, the agency is officially branded as WeGo Public Transit, including on their official website, and is usually referred to as such by news agencies. The Nashville MTA branding is outdated and no longer used on a contemporary basis. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 02:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:28 film franchise → Template:28 Days Later – 28 Days Later (film series) seems to be the accepted name for the series/franchise. ★Trekker (talk) 01:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – MLS Cup Playoffs → MLS Cup playoffs – Here "MLS Cup" is a proper name, but the playoffs are just the playoffs, except when in the context of the sponsorship name, e.g. "Audi MLS Cup Playoffs". Sort of like how Stanley Cup playoffs has always been. Dicklyon (talk) 00:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- 2007 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2007 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2008 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2008 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2009 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2009 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2010 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2010 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2011 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2011 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2012 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2012 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2013 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2013 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2014 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2014 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2015 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2015 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2016 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2016 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2017 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2017 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2018 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2018 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2019 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2019 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2020 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2020 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2021 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2021 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2022 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2022 MLS Cup playoffs
- 2023 MLS Cup Playoffs → 2023 MLS Cup playoffs
- (Discuss) – Kansai Telecasting Corporation → Kansai Television – Official company name as of 2018. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 23:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–) → Northern League (ice hockey, 2005–present) – The current date range format for the first three of these hockey leagues doesn't seem to follow the usual Wikipedia convention. I found only 27 titles like this on the English Wikipedia. As for the fourth one, I found no indication that the older New Brunswick Junior Hockey League is a primary topic over the newer one, so I suggest disambiguation. Pageviews here. If we need to pick one of the two as primary, I suggest picking the new one. Some people looking for the new one are almost certainly landing on the article about the older one by accident. There is no hatnote to indicate that a reader might have found the wrong article. There is also a New Brunswick Junior C Hockey League article. Also, is it necessary to use "ice hockey" for the Northern League rather than just "hockey"? — BarrelProof (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ive (group) → IVE (group) – Per MOS:TMRULES,
When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia.
As well, under MOS:IDENTITY, living subjects of articles are entitled to exceptional stylization if they clearly and consistently use an exceptional style, and an overwhelming majority of sources use the same exceptional style. When read in the context of WP:BLP, Wikipedia is probably necessarily compelled to use the exceptional style in such situations. A Google News search for "ive kpop" yields a majority of sources which write the name of the group as IVE in both title and body of the news articles. This includes NME, USA Today, L'Officiel Singapore, Variety, Korea JooAng Daily, The Times of India, Spin magazine, Allkpop, NYLON, Korea JoongAng Daily, the Grammy Awards website, Billboard, Forbes India, Hindustan Times In fairness, I made note of those articles I find not observing the stylization. I also include for your convenience a link to Google results which give you an idea whether the source that article is from consistently does or does not observe the stylization; * The Korea Herald – consistently does not (Google search for "ive" site:koreaherald.com) * Buzzfeed - inconsistent (Google search for "ive" site:buzzfeed.com; see also WP:BUZZFEED) * The Korea Times - consistently IVE otherwise? (Google search for "ive" site:koreatimes.com is consistently IVE, but all almost the results I get in the first 10 pages are primarily written in Korean. Some false positives appear for user comments where they are incorrectly spelling the contraction for I have, and not discussing the group. Page 10 was an arbitrarily chosen cut-off, there was no gotcha on page 11 to make me draw that line.) Their label's official website presents it as IVE, but this could be taken with a grain of salt because it also renders the individual group members as ANYUJIN, GAEUL, REI, JANGWONYOUNG, etc. The official website for the group proper does the same, with the same caveat . Their official fanclub is about the same – IVE is never not IVE, but almost everything English is rendered in all caps. Still, there are some notable exceptions for these sites – for example, one of their EPs is always After LIKE, which is more relevant to a move request for that article, but gives you some idea of intentionality here. Note that while these official websites are not conclusive given some ambiguity with how they're rendering English overall, but in no case are they not referring to the group as IVE instead of Ive. Their social media profiles hopefully make things a bit more obvious – they are always IVE on X, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, and Weibo all consistently render the name of the group in IVE. I say that this should make it a little bit more obvious because if you check their posts on these services, you can see they are less stringent in maintaining an ALMOST EVERYTHING IN ENGLISH IS ALL CAPS convention. In more typical posts, the IVE stylization is still prefered. Marketplaces and/or streaming services including Amazon, Apple Music, Spotify, and Tidal all observe the IVE stylization. Wikipedia is not beholden to fans on SNS or fan wikis, but they can help give some indication of the WP:COMMONNAME; users on the group-dedicated reddit and X appear to overwhelmingly observe the IVE stylization, as do users on any number of fan wikis I found; [28], [29], [30]. I could also link to an untold number of fansites which all observe the IVE stylization. Finally – at least for now – I'll also suggest it's worth looking at the Korean language edition of Wikipedia (title IVE) as well as the Japanese language edition (titled IVE (音楽グループ)). Korea and Japan receive the bulk of the group's marketing efforts. I am requesting here the same move as was done in January 2024. This isn't simply taking another bite at the apple, but making a more robust argument on the basis of aspects of MOS:TMRULES which I believe were overlooked last time – specifically, how should we interpret thealmost never
in TMRULES? (And does the result of that interpretation agree with WP:COMMONNAME, or come into conflict with it?) I mentioned some other considerations at the top as well. Given the subjects of the article fall under WP:BLP, we might also obliged to consider MOS:IDENTITY;When there is a discrepancy between the term most commonly used by reliable sources for a person or group and the term that person or group uses for themselves, use the term that is most commonly used by recent reliable sources. If it is unclear which is most used, use the term that the person or group uses.
MOS:BIOEXCEPT may also be relevant. 122141510 (talk) 20:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Haret Hreik airstrike → 30 July 2024 Beirut attack – a better name would be 30 July 2024 Beirut attack because we only know there is an attack on Beirut, maybe the person isn't dead. Kavas (talk) 18:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – World Rowing Federation → World Rowing – I believe the COMMONNAME is World Rowing, which is what they consistently use fro themselves. There are examples out there of using World Rowing Federation but I think they're rare. World Rowing is also more CONCISE. For what it's worth, World Rowing Federation is not the official name. According to their Bylaws, the official name is still FISA, but "World Rowing is the designation used operationally by FISA." In searching for references online it's tricky to separate references to World Rowing from the World Rowing Championships, but here are some recent examples: [31] [32] [33] JFHutson (talk) 16:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sh2-1 → Sh 2-1 – Per Talk:Sh 2-185, as an alternative to that proposed move. Praemonitus appears to be correct that the form with a space is more commonly used. For the sake of consistency, one and only one of these two proposed moves should be done. SevenSpheres (talk) 16:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Uma Musume Pretty Derby → Umamusume Pretty Derby – The official title of the project by Cygames (the owners of the IP) has been Umamusume: Pretty Derby since at least 2021 when the mobile game released, see this press note, and has been more obvious with the releases on the west, including (attaching official websites) Umamusume Party Dash and the mobile game. This could be disputed due to western anime databases (mainly ANN and MAL) listing it as Uma Musume, but it should follow the official one (Crunchyroll, the distributor for the anime, also calls it this way) Kanade2611 (talk) 18:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Kanade2611 (talk) 21:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – In a Word → In a Word (disambiguation) – On Allmusic and Amazon, the band's name and the date range are not included in the title – this box set is simply called In a Word. On the cover art, the band name and date range also appear very separated from the main title, which is simply "In a Word". The band is identified by its elaborate logo on the cover art – not using plain text, and the date range is shown separately in a small difficult-to-read font. There is only one other topic on the disambiguation page, which is a non-album song by Toto released as a B-side (of "I'll Be Over You") and then later on a compilation album (Toto XX). — BarrelProof (talk) 15:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Black sentiment → Anti-Black racism – Sentiment against a 'race' is racism. Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:57, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 173.72.3.91 (talk) 13:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Backlog
- (Discuss) – 2024 CrowdStrike incident → 2024 CrowdStrike-triggered IT system outages – While this exact phrasing turned up only in the last moments of the previous move discussion, I think it's the synthesis position of everything that was argued in the previous week of intense discussion. Jruderman (talk) 10:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cryptozoo → Cryptozoo (film) – Recent pageviews seems to indicate that there are some confusion by readers as to which Cryptozoo/CryptooZoo articles to read, i.e. CryptoZoo (game). I would put that at the minimum, there is no primary topic here and a dab to be create at the base title. – robertsky (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Privately made firearm → Ghost gun – WP:COMMONNAME, see above. WestRiding24 (talk) 08:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 01:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Toothed belt → timing belt – The most common name for this concept is "timing belt" not "toothed belt". The move is currently blocked by a redirect to a pointless disamb page. The move will either make no difference to the reader or will avoid one unnecessary step through the disamb. Jorge Stolfi (talk) 00:14, 29 July 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Jorge Stolfi (talk) 22:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SWIFT → Swift (banking) – SWIFT uses "Swift" name commonly. Ahri Boy (talk) 17:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 21:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Palestinian genocide accusation → Palestinian genocide – Given the movement of Gaza genocide to that title, the current title here has become incongruously inconsistent. How can the parent of a child topic that is not couched in the language of "accusation" be couched in that language? It should be obvious than it should not. More generally, it has become apparent that the language of "accusation" is generally inappropriate. This is not only per MOS:ACCUSED (which outlines how the language of accusation is problematic in its presumptive deployment of doubt (presumably ultimately as a corollary of WP:NPOV)), but also per consistency with similar titles on similar subjects. There are many pages on the topics of presumed or suspected (but not legally ruled on) genocides -- this is in fact the majority of them -- but no other genocide topic on Wikipedia, regardless of how speculative it is, is couched as a "genocide accusation". See the search results. Likewise, the phrase "Palestinian genocide accusation" is all but unknown to scholarship, in stark contrast to "Palestinian genocide", which is a common and widely used phrase, including in titular form, such as in the 2013 The Palestinian Genocide by Israel by the eminent Francis Boyle. In the previous move discussion, I somewhat rallied support around the current title, but that was in October last year, before much of the subsequent discussion around developments in Gaza. It seemed sensible at the time, but that was then, and this is now. Events have moved on significantly since then, not least with the ICJ case and provisional measures -- and hence the Gaza genocide move. As this page covers the overarching legal and scholarly topic of Palestinian genocide, the weight of both everything that went into the Gaza genocide RM discussion, and everything that precedes it in Palestinian history, including the Nakba and all subsequent Israeli policies and actions that have been discussed as conceivably genocidal by legal and academic experts, is under consideration. Given that this page has a significantly grander scope than its child, its title cannot reasonably contain greater doubt than that of its child. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Jerium (talk) 15:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was
the second installment of the "Tales" series
. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bolognese School → Bolognese school – Schools of art, schools of thought, etc., are usually rendered in sources with lowercase school. We should fix, consistent with WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. This is a logical extension of the consensus at Talk:Cretan School#Requested move 25 April 2024, but I thought I'd do another discussion just in case. And for the Cuzco school, restore the common spelling. (These are all found at Template:Western art movements, and there may be others there that I've missed.) Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lucchese School → Lucchese school
- Delft School (painting) → Delft school (painting)
- Norwich School of painters → Norwich school of painters
- Boston School (painting) → Boston school (painting)
- Volcano School → Volcano school
- Pont-Aven School → Pont-Aven school
- Cusco School → Cuzco school
- Quito School → Quito school
- Sienese School → Sienese school
- Cologne School of Painting → Cologne school of painting
- Hudson River School → Hudson River school
- Cologne School → Cologne school
- Cologne School (music) → Cologne school (music)
- (Discuss) – Artms → ARTMS – Per MOS:TMRULES,
When a name is almost never written except in a particular stylized form, use that form on Wikipedia.
As well, under MOS:BIOEXCEPT and MOS:IDENTITY, living subjects of articles are entitled to exceptional stylization if groups clearly and consistently use an exceptional style, and an overwhelming majority of sources use the same exceptional style. When read in the context of WP:BLP, Wikipedia is probably necessarily compelled to use the exceptional style in such situations. A Google News search [34] does not yield any results which do not stylize the group as ARTMS. Included in the articles which populate in the search results for me are NME, allkpop, Billboard, Hindustan Times, Korea JoongAng Daily, ABS-CBN News, Pop Matters. Outside of Google News, sites like Sputnik Music which reviewed their debut album earlier this year all took care to stylize the group's name as ARTMS. The Korean language edition of Wikipedia titles the respective article as ARTMS, as does the Japanese language edition. While I invite editors to debate the reliability of these sources or discuss points of difference in policy (so as to set a robust precedent), I also invite them to find any reliable sources which do not use the exceptional stylization. Officially, their primary website could be argued as ambiguous since we only have the all caps logo to go off of, but their official fansite consistently stylizes the name of the group as ARTMS. Their social media is consistent with the ARTMS stylization on Youtube, TikTok, Instagram, X, and their official Discord server. Marketplaces including Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Apple Music, and streaming services such as Spotify all observe the ARTMS stylization. The only exception I was successful in finding was Tidal, but it's not clear to me if this is because there is another musical act by the same name but opposite stylization (it doesn't appear to be WP:NOTABLE or in possible contention as the WP:PTOPIC in the future, but this could help disambiguate down the line). Wikipedia is not beholden to fans on SNS or fan wikis, but they can help give some indication of the WP:COMMONNAME; users on reddit and X appear to overwhelmingly observe the ARTMS stylization, as do users on any number of fan wikis I found; [35], [36], [37]. 122141510 (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Shabaab (Mozambique) → Islamic State – Mozambique Province – I see more results for “Islamic State – Mozambique Province” rather than “Ansar al Sunna/Al Shabaab”. ISIL propaganda also uses the name “Wilayat Muzambiq” (Mozambique Province) when referring to this group’s activities and operations. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment → All-purpose lightweight individual carrying equipment – These military equipment designators are often capped in official lists, but also often lowercase in sentences in both official and "independent" publications, so per MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS we should default to lowercase, in titles and in article text (except Interceptor should be capped even mid-sentence, as that's the proper name of the armor system, not a descriptive term). I had moved them already, thinking they'd be uncontroversial in light of a bunch of previous military equipment designation RMs, but these were objected to and reverted, so let's discuss. Dicklyon (talk) 22:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Yi (儀) → ? – Having a non-English disambiguation isn't helpful on en.Wikipedia where most of the readers except to read text in English. I have no idea what the correct disambiguation is here, but I'm hopeful someone here would. Gonnym (talk) 19:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Prince Yi (怡) → ?
- (Discuss) – Prince Rui (睿) → ? – Having a non-English disambiguation isn't helpful on en.Wikipedia where most of the readers except to read text in English. I have no idea what the correct disambiguation is here, but I'm hopeful someone here would. Gonnym (talk) 19:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Prince Rui (瑞) → ?
- (Discuss) – Austro-Hungarian rule in Bosnia and Herzegovina → Austro-Hungarian Bosnia and Herzegovina – WP:CONSISTENT with Ottoman Bosnia and Herzegovina, Ottoman Bulgaria, and Ottoman Greece. Note that the first article cited was previously Ottoman rule in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the second article has Ottoman rule in Bulgaria as a redirect, and the third has Ottoman rule in Greece as a redirect. While the empire in question differs, the situation and context is fairly similar, so readers could expect a similar titling style for this article as with the others I've mentioned. 122141510 (talk) 04:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Te Whatu Ora → Health New Zealand - Te Whatu Ora – Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES, WP:COMMONNAME Lluq (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – London Olympics → London hosting the Olympic games – Schwed66 did the same move with Paris Olympics. Titles need to be consistent when appropriate. Georgia guy (talk) 00:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eights Week → Summer Eights – While referred to as Eights Week in the past, the event is far more commonly known as Summer Eights today. All University, College, and town publication, including all material from the actual organisers refers to the event as 'Summer Eights', not 'Eights Week'. Additionally, as referred to by the last move request back in 2016, there are far more common results for Summer Eights than Eights Week in search engines. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically. OxfordRowing (talk) 20:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 15:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Transgender hormone therapy → Hormone replacement therapy (transgender) – It has become clear that the current article at Hormone replacement therapy for menopausal application does not qualify as a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC after reviewing of page navigation flows for Hormone replacement therapy, Hormone therapy and Transgender hormone therapy. An outsizedly large amount of traffic that currently navigates straight from Hormone replacement therapy to Transgender hormone therapy, since HRT is also referred to for it (as outlined in the lead of the article), or to the current disambiguating article Hormone therapy, which combined account for 30% of the navigation from the current HRT article. So I propose that Hormone replacement therapy doesn't have a clear primary topic and as such we should rename the two articles to both use "Hormone replacement therapy" (or HRT in short) as their WP:COMMONNAME with the specific application in parenthesis. And then turn the current "Hormone replacement therapy" into a simple disambiguation page, or redirect it to Hormone therapy (which kind of already acts as a disambiguation page, as also shown from the traffic of the hat note). Raladic (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 07:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – WD 2359−434 → Gliese 915 – Simpler name inline with WP:STARNAMES, which priorizes Gliese designations for stars without proper names, Bayer, Flamsteed, HD or Variable designations. New title meets the naturalness criteria, follow the naming convetion and is consistent with other Gliese stars. 21 Andromedae (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lady Henry Somerset → Lady Isabella Somerset – As mentioned in the article, this person "won the court case in 1878 and resumed the style of Lady Isabella Somerset", and after 1878 she used "Lady Isabella Somerset" as her official style. Because of this name change, the article title of this person in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is "Somerset [née Somers-Cocks], Lady Isabella Caroline [Lady Henry Somerset]", and the ODNB calls her "Lady Isabella" in the article. The British Museum also registers her as "Lady Isabella Somerset". There is also an academic article which calls her "Lady Isabella Somerset". According to Wikipedia:Article_titles#Name_changes, "When this [a change of name] occurs, we give extra weight to independent, reliable, English-language sources ("reliable sources" for short) written after the name change". Since this person is called "Lady Isabella Somerset" in recent reliable sources, the name of the article should be "Lady Isabella Somerset". The move was already proposed in 2017, but it was not performed. saebou (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robbie Moore (MP) → Robbie Moore (politician) – This seems to be the standard disambiguator. GnocchiFan (talk) 12:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 14:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost (talk) 11:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – House demolition → House demolition (military) – The primary topic for demolishing houses would be demolition. The military use of house demolition is not the obvious primary topic and should be disambiguated. I would also not be opposed to (militiary tactic), but it doesn't seem like other articles use it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ermou Street (Athens) → Ermou Street – Unnecessary disambiguation. Killuminator (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:15, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Voluntary assisted dying in Western Australia → ? – This page is functionally a page about the specific law: Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019. The other pages in this area which are about specific laws, they are named after the specific law: *Rights of the Terminally Ill Act 1995 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in the Northern Territory *Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2017 - there is no Voluntary assisted dying in Victoria For the purposes of uniformity, this page should be renamed Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2019 A history/background section is perfectly reasonable to have in a page about a specific law - that is the case for Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006, Aliens Deportation Act 1948, Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2021. DotCoder (talk) 19:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Army Radio → Israeli Army Radio – to be more descriptive. Israeli Army Radio already redirect to Army Radio Astropulse (talk) 04:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:52, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ascalon → Ashkelon (ancient city) – Recently, the name of this article was changed from Tel Ashkelon to Ascalon. The rationale was that Ashkelon and Tel Ashkelon are too similar, and that readers cannot be expected to differentiate. It was said that Ascalon is the name of the historical site. This rationale is invalid. The name Ashkelon, is the conventionally accepted name for both the modern city, and the ancient site. In many cases, the name Ashkelon is even used when referring to periods in which it was historically known as Ascalon. This place has at least 20,000 years of history, accros many periods of times. It was a prehistoric site, a Canaanite, Philistine, Hellenistic city, a Crusader city, an Islamic city... We don't always know its actual name, and it has never had a single way to pronounce its name. I am suggesting to change the name to Ashkelon (ancient city). I divided my argument into three parts: (1) Ashkelon and Ascalon are virtually the same and therefore confusing; (2) The toponym for the ancient site is known in maps and sites as "Ashkelon"; (3) the conentional scholarly name for the city in all periods is "Ashkelon", including periods in which it was called in different names. 1. Ascalon and Ashkelon are virtually the same. It is very confusing still. Differetiating them with "ancient city" in brackets makes no mistakes. Another option would've been "Tel Ashkelon", but there were times in which the ancient settlements in Ashkelon were not exactly on the Tel, and the city often controlled a much broader territory. Tel Ashkelon would strictly refer to the antiquties, but the article's scope goes beyond it. Another opition I thought about was "History of Ashkelon", simmilar to how we have "History of Athens", but I think that this might confuse the people who are looking for the history of modern Ashkelon, whose place should be in the article about the modern city. Therefore, I think that Ashkelon (ancient city) is the clearest option for the scope of the article. 2. Location identification: Today, the principal site of ancient Ashkelon is known as Tel Ashkelon. This is a declared national park in Israel, and it apears by that name. The official name of the park is "Ashkelon National Park". I think it makes a lot of sense to assume, that many people who visit Israel as tourist, will likely enter this Wikipedia article. They will not be referred to Ascalon, but to Ashkelon, either Tel Ashkelon (mentioned here, here, here and [38], which were the first results I was given by google. Therefore, the site, as a location, is better identified with Ashkelon rather than Ascalon Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Berar Sultanate → Berar sultanate – Capitalization is not necessary. When I search for "Berar Sultanate" on Google Books, I find 6 of the first 10 hits user lowercase sultanate. Per the criteria at MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS, we should not cap things that are not mostly capped in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 06:34, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ultime grida dalla savana → Savage Man Savage Beast – Per WP:USEENGLISH in most foreign language film titles, with the exception of La dolce vita. 49.150.14.10 (talk) 00:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 06:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture → Names for Jewish and Christian holy books – This is a worthwhile article, but IMHO its current title is misleading. I expected "Names for books of Jewish and Christian scripture" to list the Jewish and Christian names for books of the Bible. Instead, it lists divisions within the Bible, and the more authoritative of the other Jewish types of holy books. I believe that in both religions "scripture" is only used for the Bible. "Sifrei Kodesh" is a wider category used in Judaism, literally meaning "holy books", although this does have a wider scope than the current content of the nominated article. – Fayenatic London 14:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saddle tramp → Saddle tramp (disambiguation) – Created main space page for Saddle tramp. Name previously redirected to Saddle tramp (disambiguation) page. The title Saddle tramp should direct to this page, not the disambiguation page. There is a header link at the top of this page. Maineartists (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tonlé Sap → Tonlé Sap Lake – The original name before renamed after the discussion Talk:Tonlé_Sap#Rename above, due to possible confusion with the river that connect the lake and Mekong. The name "Tonlé Sap Lake" is NOT redundant at all. In that discussion user Markalexander100 stated that "Khmer and English terms aren't quite equivalent. In Khmer, as far as I can tell, there is one name- Tonle Sap- which refers to the lake and river together, while in English we differentiate them." This is not quite right because the official name of the lake in Khmer is "បឹងទន្លេសាប" (Boeng Tonle Sap), where បឹង/boeng means lake. So clearly they still have the word "lake" in the name, to differentiate it from the river. ទន្លេ/Tonle means river and that's its only meaning, not "Tonlé already means lake (or a very large, wide river)" as stated by user Dara above. For example, Mekong is "Tonlé Mekong", Bassac River is "Tonlé Bassac", Kong River is "Tonlé Kong". There's no known translation as Tonlé to "lake". Another similarly named geographic feature is the Boeng Tonle Chhmar (a smaller lake next to the Tonle Sap Lake). So to sum up, if we say "Tonle Sap" (without adding "Boeng") to the Khmer-speaking people, theoretically we are referring to the river (according to the meaning of the words). But then since the lake is too well-known, the term "Tonle Sap" will become ambiguous. However, as a matter of fact, they should be able to tell which one you are referring to, based on the context of the conversation. My suggestion is to rename this article to Tonlé Sap Lake, and have a separate article about the river. Two options for this separate article's name is: #Tonlé Sap (as per its literal meaning in Khmer) or, #Tonlé Sap (river) and Tonlé Sap becomes the disambiguation page. The reason for having a separate article for the river is simply because not everything about the river can be merged into the lake's article. For example, Phnom Penh, the state's capital, is located at the mouth of the river and there's probably something about the river related to Phnom Penh's urban planning that's worth writing about. And merging these into the lake's article would be inappropriate. ទន្លេតូច (talk) 23:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – RAI → Rai (Italian broadcasting company) – the common name is "Rai"; see the official site: https://www.rai.it/, the Treccani encyclopaedia: https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/rai-radiotelevisione-italiana/, and the it.wiki page: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai. JacktheBrown (talk) 22:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Global War Party → Global war party – Per MOS:CAPS GnocchiFan (talk) 20:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trump raised-fist photographs → Donald Trump fist pump photographs – While his fist is raised in the images, he was actually carrying out a fist pump while being escorted off stage. Also "Trump raised fist" doesn't include the first name of the main subject of the photograph, and just doesn't sound right. Sir MemeGod ._. (talk - contribs - created articles) 05:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Doctor Who season 1 → Doctor Who season 1 (1963–1964) – I think there is a consensus for another requested move and for these move to be part of it, so I am starting another formal requested move. Cal3000000 (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – James House → James House (disambiguation) – The only other entities with the exact name "James House" are James House (Rogers, Arkansas) and James House (Pensacola, Florida), which both have less than one page view per day. The singer has over 25. Everything else on the dab page James House except for the singer's album is a partial title match with at least one word other than "James House" in the title. From this evidence, it's abundantly clear that the singer is by far the most common result for people looking for the exact name "James House", and should therefore be the primary topic. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 05:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – De La Salle Green Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Green Archers volleyball – The above existing pages have titles that do emulate the placement of a disambiguating sports descriptor after the team name, per WP:QUALIFIER. This style of adding descriptors has been prescribed by example by, among other similar college-sports WikiProjects, this page under WP:CBBALL and this page under WP:CFB for titles of pages about United States college teams. Clearly, these descriptors were prescribed in order to naturally disambiguate (by WP:NATURAL) a page about a team playing a certain sport from pages about namesake teams that are playing in other sports. In each of the team pages above being requested for moving, however, 1) the team name used is not that of its institution's team's uniform or collective name but the special nickname or unique moniker given to that specific team playing in its sport, so much so that the need for disambiguation disappears. 2) what is produced by the addition of a disambiguating sport descriptor after the team's special nickname is a redundancy. For example, there are no other De La Salle Green Spikers other than the De La Salle Green Archers team playing men's volleyball. For having a redundant title, the page's title then creates WP:OVERPRECISION and breaches the WP:CONCISE rule. That, however, can be salvaged by replacing the special moniker with the institution's team's uniform or collective name, a replacement which is what would have the need for disambiguation and erase the redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- De La Salle Lady Spikers volleyball → De La Salle Lady Archers volleyball
- De La Salle Lady Booters football → De La Salle Lady Archers football
- UST Golden Spikers volleyball → UST Growling Tigers volleyball
- UST Golden Tigresses volleyball → UST Tigresses volleyball
- UST Lady Booters football → UST Tigresses football
- (Discuss) – List of Mario franchise characters → List of Mario characters – More concise title, WP:CONSISTENT with other video game franchise characters lists: *List of Donkey Kong characters *List of The Legend of Zelda characters *List of Star Fox characters etc. Mia Mahey (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:TSGN and SE Stations → Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink Railway – While a move is required to remove the unnecessary caps in "Stations", the move will also make the naming convention of this template consistent with other TOC station templates, as indicated by the consensus reached at the RM at Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c. The suggested title stems from the fact that Thameslink, Southern, and Great Northern are all a part of Govia Thameslink. At the same time, I'd like to request the Southeastern content be split into a new template called Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern for the same reasons. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 23:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Twitter under Elon Musk → X (social network) – See Talk:Twitter#Requested move 17 May 2024 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[2] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.
References
- TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat raid and rescue – Most sources are dual referencing this as a raid, attack or assault rather than just as a rescue. Guardian "Israeli attacks in central Gaza killed scores of Palestinians, many of them civilians, on Saturday amid a special forces operation to free four hostages held there, with the death toll sparking international outrage." NYT "Israeli soldiers and special operations police rescued four hostages from Gaza on Saturday amid a heavy air and ground assault",CNN "Israel’s operation to rescue four hostages took weeks of preparation and involved hundreds of personnel, its military said. But the mission began with a trail of destruction in central Gaza and ended in carnage, according to local authorities." Selfstudier (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Possibly incomplete requests
- Talk:Rolls-Royce Holdings – Rolls-Royce Holdings is requested for move to Rolls-Royce, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Bengawan Solo – Bengawan Solo is requested for move to Bengawan Solo (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Kamala – Kamala is requested for move to Kamala (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Meath – Meath is requested for move to Meath (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
- Talk:Henry Aaron – Henry Aaron is requested for move to Henry Aaron (disambiguation), which could make the disambiguation malplaced. Has a primary redirect been specified?
References
See also
- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions