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Doughnuts are unhealthy?
[edit]This is a sweeping and not very logical statement attached only to one reference. Doughnuts are not poisonous. Where properly made they are (usually) a treat food providing mostly fuel and not much nutrition, and they should be consumed in moderation - like everything else.
Can I suggest that the statement that they are unhealthy should be replaced with a more nuanced statement about what they contain and what function they play in a diet?
I have just spent some time trying to encourage an underweight person to eat more sweet snacks if that is what she feels she can take in. She has been so pressured to think these snacks are bad, and that she's bad if she eats a lot of them, that the fact that at this moment simple, sweet food is exactly what she needs, is not getting through. If she added several doughnuts a day to her current food intake, that would almost certainly be a considerable improvement to the healthiness of her diet in her current circumstances.
It does matter that what is written on food recognises the subjectivity of what is needed, and therefore of what is "healthy" in different circumstances. FloweringOctopus (talk) 07:38, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 26 July 2023
[edit]There is a requested move at Talk:Donut holes#Requested move 26 July 2023 that may interest readers of this page. Sdrqaz (talk) 07:57, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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In the intro, please replace “type of food” with “type of pastry”.https://books.google.com/books?id=-3zSEAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=is+a+donut+a+pastry&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjn1pffuoGEAxVCl2oFHXv8DBYQ6AF6BAgIEAM 2600:100C:A218:92ED:1C3C:4E21:7A67:E263 (talk) 01:40, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia Commons
[edit]If anyone is interested, an image of an Italian ciambella should be added to the ciambella page (note: Italian ciambella, so not American donut, etc.). JacktheBrown (talk) 10:20, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Too American focused
[edit]E.g.
Common varieties include the Boston cream, coconut, key lime, and jelly.
Outside the US are ANY of these flavours popular? Boston Cream - definitely no. Coconut - probably no. Key Lime - definitely no. Jelly - only in in the US is jam called jelly.
This is just one example. Overall the perspective is American. 79.129.53.49 (talk) 07:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
The ciambella is the Italian donut, although with (some) differences; since the ciambella page is very poor in information and without images, it would be excellent if a "Variations" section and an "Italy" sub-section were created, with this information written here.
"Ciambelle originated as naturally leavened bread dough cakes, toroidal in shape, fried in plenty of boiling oil. They are a derivation of Krapfen, an Austrian sweet without the classic central hole that characterises ciambelle. Krapfen contain a delicious filling, usually apricot or plum jam. From the Austrian sweet recipe, in addition to ciambelle, bomboloni are also derived, typical Carnival sweets available both fried and baked. Unlike Krapfen, these are filled with custard or chocolate cream." (https://www.dolcidee.it/magazine/curiosita/qual-e-la-differenza-tra-donuts-le-ciambelle). JacktheBrown (talk) 16:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd rather see Ciambella improved. Valereee (talk) 17:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- In English, I know Ciambella as a type of cake similar to a Gugelhupf but Ciambelle refers specifically to a fried pastry similar to a donut.
- They're two completely different things. The confusion comes from the usage of the Italian word in English, wouldn't it make more sense to link the donut article in the original page to indicate the different usages? 87.121.75.201 (talk) 21:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- If bombolone and Krapfen have their own pages, then so should ciambella. At most, consider merging those three articles. But they seem fine as they are. It'll just take some dedicated multilingual editors to get them in shape. Ornov Ganguly (talk) 15:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Ancient Rome
[edit]The article states that "an early version of a deep-fried dough ball originated in ancient Rome when people started frying dough and putting sugar or cinnamon on it."
This is not referenced, and suggests that sugar would have been commonly available in Ancient Rome. It does however appear that there is a recipe in Cato's De Agri Cultura, so I am inclined to reword this to something like:
"a recipe for a deep-fried dough ball was recorded by Cato the Elder in his de agri cultura, using cheese, honey and poppy seeds."
BH530481 (talk) 13:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Good historical addition. I have no conflict with this so long as you could help me find a good online translation of this, since it appears to be more your specialty. Ornov Ganguly TALK 17:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Ornov; the translation here seems to be reasonably accurate and clear: https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cato/De_Agricultura/E*.html (#79) BH530481 (talk) 13:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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