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    July 26

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    Zabreh/Hohenstad

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    I would like to contribute an article regarding Zabreh/Hohenstad. The family Froehlich lived there and I have an Article about one of the members born in this city in 1876. Leo Froehlich. 50.34.114.21 (talk) 00:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    English-language Wikipedia already has an article on Zábřeh (also known as Hohenstadt). If you mean that you have an article (published in a periodical or similar) that could be used to benefit the article Zábřeh, then, if the article is published and reliable, you might use Talk:Zábřeh to alert other editors to its existence and availability. -- Hoary (talk) 00:48, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It was me who added the heading to a post with no heading. Maybe it should have said Leo Froehlich and the poster wants to create a new article about him, not merely add mention to Zábřeh. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation, and note the requirements in Wikipedia:Notability (people). New users usually have difficulty making an acceptable Wikipedia article. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Timeline template

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    Hello, is there a suitable timeline-style template that could replace File:History of St Mungo's.png? The file is quite poor quality, being raster and having arrows pointing in directions that seem to have been selected out of a hat. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 07:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The image is also fully invisible in Dark Mode (gadget version). Matrix, see Template:Graphical timeline for instructions on how to create timelines using templates. The splits in the topic institutions might make it a potential use case for {{Tree chart}} instead. Folly Mox (talk) 09:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Collapse template help requested

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    Help about collapse template is requested at the Teahouse. Bookku (talk) 13:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Approval of a Profile

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    Hrishikesh Pawar, dancer/choreographer's profile is not approved yet ? Can someone help ? 213.220.158.179 (talk) 14:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    We don't have profiles here, we have articles. It would help us if you linked to the draft, but there is no way to guarantee a speedy review on this volunteer project. 331dot (talk) 14:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    IP editor. An article called Hrishikesh Pawar was deleted way back in 2011 as being about a non-notable person. If that's not what you are referring to, please link the draft or sandbox where the current version is located. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    upload an article

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    I need to upload a completed article. ReverendRobertMortimer (talk) 14:24, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You must use the Article Wizard to submit a draft for review. New accounts cannot directly create articles. 331dot (talk) 14:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ReverendRobertMortimer: I assume you mean that you created an article on your computer using some sort of word processing software. There is no automated way to "upload" such an article to Wikipedia. Wikipedia articles use the Wikimedia markup language and are produced using one of several Wikipedia editors. You will need to tediously cut and paste the contents of your local copy into the editing window of the Wikipedia editor, using the markup syntax for headers, etc., as part of creating your draft. -Arch dude (talk) 15:45, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Furthermore, as you are a new editor and don't appear to have spent time learning how Wikipedia works, it is likely that you have written your draft BACKWARDS, and written from what you know, rather than from what your independent sources say.
    My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 16:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    book creator

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    What happened to the book creator? 2A01:E11:13:4010:D0B1:D488:9ABC:B0ED (talk) 14:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The facility was closed down in 2021. See WP:VPP#Formally deprecate the book namespace ColinFine (talk) 16:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Lucretia Garfield

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    I've found some sources reporting that Lucretia Garfield was born in Hiram and others in Garretsville. Could the discrepancy be due to the fact that the village of Garrettsville was formed from portions of Hiram? Which is more correct to cite in our entry? 2A02:B023:8F06:6AB0:17D0:D837:7E31:64D3 (talk) 15:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    When reliable sources differ, the article should use both and report the discrepancy. You as an editor must use editorial judgement as to how to do this. Often, a footnote will be the best/least disruptive choice. -Arch dude (talk) 15:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arch dude Thanks for your kind help, but are they two different places? Because our Garrettsville article says that it was formed from portions of Hiram. 2A02:B023:8F06:6AB0:17D0:D837:7E31:64D3 (talk) 15:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just describe it. Maybe "was born in Garretsville[a]" -Arch dude (talk) 16:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arch dude the consistent majority of sources say Garrettsville. So, I just want to know if Garrettsville and Hiram are the same place or not. If I say that she was born in Hiram, I include also Garrettsville? Do these statements express the same concept? 2A02:B023:8F06:6AB0:17D0:D837:7E31:64D3 (talk) 16:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ip editor, I have found a Google books link that explains that Garrettsville was "carved out of the south west corner of Nelson and the south east corner of Hiram" (page 459) in 1874 (page 460). TSventon (talk) 17:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TSventon many thanks for your response. So, if I say that she was born in Hiram or if I claim that she was born in Garrettsville, I express the same concept? 2A02:B023:8F06:6AB0:17D0:D837:7E31:64D3 (talk) 18:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TSventon Also, for our entry is it better to say she was born in Garrettsville or in Hiram? 2A02:B023:8F06:6AB0:17D0:D837:7E31:64D3 (talk) 18:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Garrettsville and Hiram township in 1832 are overlapping concepts. I don't have a strong opinion about which is better, but you can add a note as Arch dude suggested. TSventon (talk) 18:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    She was born in the unincorporated community of Garrettsville, which was a bunch of dwellings around a crossroads. After she was born, Hiram came into existance, and later the legal town of Garretsville came into existence. There is no need to go into all of these details in the Lucretia Garfield article. Just say "Garrestville", with a footnote. -Arch dude (talk) 18:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arch dude @TSventon But, I'm not understanding well. Hiram Township didn't exist when she was born? And Garrettsville was a village or a community? Is it a mistake to say that she was born in Hiram? If it is so, the note is misleading for readers. 2A02:B023:8F06:6AB0:17D0:D837:7E31:64D3 (talk) 19:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You said you have reliable sources that say "Hiram" and others that say "Garretsville". We cannot know which is correct. You are not supposed to make a choice when sources differ. Just saying "Garretsville" is, by our definition, misleading to readers. Just say "Garretsville", but with a footnote. -Arch dude (talk) 19:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arch dude Yes, there are some sources reporting Hiram. But were Garrettsville and Hiram two distinct or overlapping concepts? 2A02:B023:8F06:6AB0:17D0:D837:7E31:64D3 (talk) 19:24, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As a wikipedia editor, it is not your job to answer that question. It is your job to summarize what reliable sources say. This is my last word here. You may discuss this further on the article's talk page, but who cares? -Arch dude (talk) 19:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arch dude Considering that I can't know if they were distinct or overlapping geographical entities, unfortunately I don't feel like adding a note. Anyway, thanks for your help. 151.82.79.137 (talk) 19:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Notes

    1. ^ some sources say Hiram. Garretsville was formed from portions of Hiram

    How to correct an image

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    The first chemical structure given for glutamate is incorrect; this is the structure for glutamine. When I tried to edit, I found that the entire block is based on a template that seems to link all of the pictures. I only want to remove/replace one of them. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks! Mrcc78578 (talk) 17:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    glutamic acid
    @Mrcc78578 We don't have an article for glutamate, that's a redirect to glutamic acid. The structure in the chembox is correct for that compound (see thumb here to the right) and more detail is given at Glutamic_acid#Ionization. Glutamine is the amino acid with a sidechain that terminates in CONH2 and the article glutamine correctly shows this. Please be more specific about what you think may be wrong. See also File:ProteinogenicAminoAcids.svg. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, I looked again. You're correct. 2603:6080:6203:2F8D:E4A7:5FBB:4415:9874 (talk) 21:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Shifting table template alignment

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    Is there a way for me to move to the left a template which is by default centered? I'm not talking about the alignment of the text within the template, but the template as a whole. I am specifically referring to the Template:S-rail and Template:S-rail-start. RyanAl6 (talk) 17:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Searching sub pages?

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    So I got a load of bits of articles all started half-assed in user space, and I suspect that one of them has something useful for now... way of finding it without opening all the pages? Cheers! ——Serial Number 54129 18:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you asking for something like this? -- D'n'B-t -- 18:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey D'n'B, very clever  :) as simple as a userspace search. D'oh. I thought it would involve SQL:QuarryQuery, etc! Thanks for that! ——Serial Number 54129 12:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about fatality count

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    I'm working on an article about a disaster that injured several people, one of whom was a woman 6 months into pregnancy that lost their child. The source does not count this as a death in its section about casualties. Would we count this as a confirmed fatality? GeorgeMemulous (talk) 22:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If the sources (preferably multiple) say it is not a fatality, then it is not a fatality. WP:Verifiability, not truth. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 06:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See Omagh bombing. There have been various attempts to change the death toll to 31 because one of the victims was a woman pregnant with twins. However, the agreed death toll in reliable sources is 29.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's not to say a footnote could not be added. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:22, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    July 27

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    How to add a background color to an image in an infobox?

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    For example if a logo is all-white png it wouldn't be visible so a black background color is added to make it visible. Neocorelight (Talk) 03:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You cannot rely on this because there is light and dark mode. Better to explicitly edit the image to have a background color. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 10:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wouldn't the color stay as is regardless of mode? Also please just answer the initial question. @Shushugah. Neocorelight (Talk) 23:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Suspected Copyvio

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    In Koenigsegg Gemera most of the text is from (https://www.koenigsegg-registry.com/models/gemera) as seen here (https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&oldid=1236803799&action=compare&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.koenigsegg-registry.com%2Fmodels%2Fgemera). But I am not sure, can anyone help? Leoneix (talk) 07:39, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Leoneix, to me it looks like that site copied from Wikipedia and not the other way around. If you use mw:WWT to look who added the sections in question and when, you'll see they were added by multiple different users, and some time apart. I think it's unlikely all these people copied from the same place at different times. Rummskartoffel 13:35, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Rummskartoffel I used wikiblame and I too saw multiple users added that, so had doubts. Anyways, Thanks for confirming. Leoneix (talk) 14:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Now that you (plural) have done the detective-work (thanks!), please add {{Backwards copy}} to the talkpage so others will understand what the situation is. DMacks (talk) 05:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Tables, infoboxes, Prekmurje Slovene

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    In article Prekmurje Slovene#Morphology. Unfortunately I messed up. Where can they help you create suitable tables? Doncsecztalk 11:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Doncsecz~enwiki: I made some changes.[1] Does that look OK? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know anything about the subject but I noticed three of the table headings in the Neuter section say masculine and not neuter. Is that right? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter: Thank you. There are similarities between masculine and neuter in few cases. Doncsecztalk 14:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Doncsecz~enwiki: Here is a version following Help:Table more closely with class="wikitable" for our normal table styling:
    Declension patterns of feminine nouns
    ending in a (Prekmurian Slovene)
    Grammatical case Grammatical number
    Singular Dual Plural
    Nominative -a -i/ej -e
    Genitive -e -∅/ej -∅
    Dative -i/ej -ama -an
    Accusative -o/ou -i/ej -e
    Locative -i/ej -ama/aj -aj
    Instrumental -of(v)/-ouf(v) -ama -ami
    I also made some other changes. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:59, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please close or delete my account

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    Please close (delete) my account or send me the instructions on how to do it. I would like to disassociate myself from Wikipedia as they do not use academic standards for encyclopedic writing: User:MDaisy Thank you. MDaisy (talk) 19:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Closure of an account is not possible. Just stop using the account. 110.2.116.59 (talk) 20:06, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MDaisy: An account can't be deleted, but you can see the procedure on "vanishing" your account at WP:VANISH. – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 21:16, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    MDaisy Is there a specific concern or issue that you have? 331dot (talk) 21:22, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your kind response. I've written for several different wikis including Wikipedia (mainly quietly editing here) and have received a couple Barnstars for my efforts. I've had an WP account since 2008. Yesterday I had a rather hostile encounter concerning the Kamala Harris Border Czar story. In fact, MSN mentioned the WP fight https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wikipedia-sleuths-fight-over-whether-harris-was-border-czar/ar-BB1qHfJC?fbclid=IwY2xjawESShtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHZyzCT_6Rj3xbTn1MW77MI_eJhX948Khl6NTo7D_oRPdPcHGdM5VTvEscg_aem_p26nYoukctGYaynfO8HvEQ. I am an old dinosaur and was taught 40+ years ago how to write a research paper. I understand what is considered an original (primary) source and what is not. I also understand how to write an objective essay or article. I am concerned the Kamala Harris Border Czar story is biased and communicated that. I also offered some neutral writing that could be used in said article and it was refused. What CONCERNS me most is both the article and talk page was locked so no one including me could offer suggestions. I thought a wiki was a COLLABORATIVE effort and in order to have that you must allow open discussions. You can see the talk page here: Talk:Kamala HarrisI also contacted a presumed admin who was not helpful and in fact disparaged my contributions to Wikipedia. I can find better ways to spend my time where I am appreciated and validated. In fact, I love posting a X as Elon Musk has done to return free speech to the Internet. To repeat I am a firm believer in free speech and unbiased, objective writing. Thank you again for doing what a wiki is supposed to do by reaching out. MDaisy (talk) 22:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    MDaisy, I'm sorry that this very minor squabble in the ongoing culture wars of (to me) a distant continent have impinged on the editing activities that both of us enjoy. Bear in mind that Wikipedia has hundreds of thousands of editors and (I presume, at least) hundreds of admins, who each have their own opinions and do not operate in lockstep as a group mind. The actions of one or a few around a specific, highly charged and still-ongoing issue do not necessarily represent Wikipedia's setted policies and procedures.
    I'll shortly be taking a Wikibreak because upcoming real-life activities (attending a Worldcon) will occupy me for a week or so. I suggest you take one also, and see how you feel about matters in due course. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.235 (talk) 00:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, the Skwaatchmen  :) ——Serial Number 54129 12:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    87.81.230.195, {{NUMBEROFADMINS}} returns 855, although Wikipedia:List of administrators/Inactive shows 88 admins as having no contributions within the past season. Folly Mox (talk) 13:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Folly Mox. I knew there was a list, but not how to find it. Glad to see my guesstimation was roughly correct. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.235 (talk) 21:18, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would gently suggest that you see WP:FREESPEECH. Private entities like X and Wikipedia can control or (in the case of Musk) choose not to control, speech on their websites. Personally I think Musk ruined Twitter, but to each their own. Collaboration does require discussion but it is not unrestrained with no limitations whatsoever. Keep in mind that every other contributor to Wikipedia is not necessarily aware of your background and knowledge. It isn't required to study the history and background of users one communicates with. If you have been subjected to personal attacks or other policy violations, that's a matter for WP:ANI. 331dot (talk) 21:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    redirect

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    I would like a simplified explanation of the use of "redirect". I am completely confused.

    this is a history entry on the article that i created.

    "moved page Joe Chambers (Museum Founder) to Joe Chambers (music producer) over a redirect without leaving a redirect: Revert undiscussed move (WP:RMUM) "

    underlined [I added] text makes no sense at all to me. Please translate to plain english. And help me understand redirect in general. After I moved the article previously, I think a message said "clean up redirects" or similar.

    Thanks very much.

    MikeMARS52 MikeMARS52 (talk) 19:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi MikeMARS52! It looks like the move you made to (Museum Founder) was undone. I can't speak to what the subject is known for, but at least as per the guide on titles as well as on capitalization, words that are not proper nouns do not get capitalized.
    The "moved ... over a redirect without leaving a redirect" means that the page was moved back to (music producer) (which became a redirect page when you moved it) and did not leave behind a redirect page at (Musuem Founder). – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 21:09, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MikeMARS52 For general information on redirects, see WP:Redirect. Note also WP:Article titles which is relevant. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:11, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to edit icon of a portal ?

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    The transgender portal icon is a puzzle piece that fades from pink to blue. I now know that the puzzle piece seems to be just the default portal icon, but on top of having disconcerting implications, it is also just not a commonly used symbol. For these reasons I was motivated to create an account and replace the icon with a trans flag fitting the style of the rainbow flag used in the LGBT portal, but I can't see how to do that. Advice ? Somoli (talk) 20:52, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Somoli: File:Portal Transgender.svg is selected by ["transgender"] = "Portal Transgender.svg" in Module:Portal/images/t. The page is protected and you need consensus to change it. You could start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    July 28

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    How come my wikipedia page is not showing up on google

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    I have a Wikipedia page, but it never shows up when I search for it on Google. It's weird Gabrielle Selz DGHamlin (talk) 02:13, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi DGHamlin. We appear to have articles about two different members of that family: Peter Selz and Gabrielle Selz. You mentioned a concern with Gabrielle's article, but your only edit was instead to Peter's article. Could you double-check which one is a concern? DMacks (talk) 04:11, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article Gabrielle Selz was created in March, more than 90 days ago, so it should now be accessible to Google's crawler. I can't explain why it doesn't show up on a search. (It was created by Th30Selz, whom I suspect of being her son, with an undeclared conflict of interest; but he's done a competent job.) Maproom (talk) 07:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I found Gabrielle Selz in a Google search, see this screenshot. However, Wikipedia doesn't have any control over how search engines index the site.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @DGHamlin: Do you mean that you are Gabrielle Selz? If so then see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if you want to make edits about yourself or your family. Gabrielle Selz is the fifth result on the first page of a Google search for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Second result on DuckDuckGo for me (acknowledged this is not the original question), with blurb drawn from the article. It does show up in a google search as well, although I had to scroll through about three screens of AI generated boxes before I got to the actual search results, which is why I switched to DuckDuckGo in the first place. I wonder if the original concern is more along the lines of "the Wikipedia article never shows up in Google's page after page of AI generated boxes". Folly Mox (talk) 13:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    With Duckduckgo, a search for "Gabrielle Selz" gives her own web site first, the Wikipedia article second. With Chrome and Google search, her Wikipedia article is (for me) listed 97th, after yards of drivel. I shall be using Duckduck go in future. Thank you, Folly Mox.   Maproom (talk) 19:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For sure! I've found that for certain cases (like site: and inurl: keywords, or multiple string literals in non-Latin characters) google will provide better results than DuckDuckGo, but most of the time the results are similar, delta the nonsense google piles on the top. Folly Mox (talk) 20:19, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Error message

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    automated filter error occured. please guide. Aditi's Voice (talk) 02:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Aditi's Voice, are you talking about your attempts at creating Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya Shegaon (Buldhana)? If not, please be more specific.
    If you are, the message is correct: you were trying to add an email address, but email addresses usually don't belong in articles. Additionally, it looks like you were trying to copy the official site, so the article would have had to be deleted as a copyright violation anyway. Rummskartoffel 09:09, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Gypsy rose

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    While reading your online description of gypsy rose Blanchard I noticed the website states she is a MBP survivor, her mother was never diagnosed with MBP so you’re spreading false information 2603:6011:AF02:D1D0:787A:2B18:7A0B:A164 (talk) 13:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The lack of a medical diagnosis doesn't necessarily negate claims made by other reliable sources, especially so in this case where nothing relevant came to light until the mother was already dead. That said, if you feel strongly about improving the wording of the article, you could open a discussion about your concerns at Talk:Gypsy-Rose Blanchard. Folly Mox (talk) 13:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Who is the reliable source? And wouldn’t what you just said completely disregard anything about the case. It’s all based off medical records…Maybe y’all should do some research instead of spreading false information. 2603:6011:AF02:D1D0:787A:2B18:7A0B:A164 (talk) 14:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If you had read the whole article, including the "references" section at the bottom, you'd find multiple reliable sources that support the statement, including: [2][3][4], etc. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:12, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Those are not reliable sources lol 2603:6011:AF02:D1D0:787A:2B18:7A0B:A164 (talk) 14:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And an anonymous IP is a reliable source? Shantavira|feed me 16:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As in me? You can look through medical records anyone can, she was never diagnosed with MBP which is a FACT and easily accessible online to find 98.123.108.254 (talk) 19:18, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also I’m not the one publishing things on Wikipedia as true 98.123.108.254 (talk) 19:21, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sounds like something you might want to bring up at Talk:Gypsy-Rose Blanchard, where you can discuss with editors who have worked on the article and are familiar with the topic. Folly Mox (talk) 20:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Determination as to what is a reliable source is made by consensus of Wikipedia editors. You can see at WP:RSP that the consensus is that both ABC News and CBS News are considered reliable sources. But if you have other reliable sources that contradict these sources, you should open a discussion on the article talk page. CodeTalker (talk) 01:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If a celebrity with their article happens to have a Wikipedia account, should the content added by themselves that are without sources in their own article be reverted?

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    For example if a celeb has their Wikipedia account (with lots of evidence to prove it is their own and that celeb admits it), and they added their birth date to their own article but WITHOUT sources, should their edit(s) be reverted as well?

    sorry for my poor english grammar :( Coddlebean (talk) 14:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    All content must be referenced, regradless of who the editor is, per the policy at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Shantavira|feed me 15:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Coddlebean: The celebrity can publish this information on a non-Wikipedia web site that they clearly control. Wikipedia can then reference that web site. But even so, Wikipedis should say something like "Ms. Jones asserts that she was born on January 1, 1970", because celebrities have been known to be less than truthful about age. -Arch dude (talk) 16:09, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If by (with lots of evidence to prove it is their own and that celeb admits it) you mean the celebrity is aware of a Wikipedia article about them and are annoyed at the lack of information on their own article, I think they can solve this problem themselves pretty easily. In specific, the celebrity might find it helpful to look at WP:ABOUTSELF. If I was a celebrity who wanted to have my birthdate added to a Wikipedia article, I'd probably post a video to a Twitter account known to be managed by me, holding up my birth certificate or other ID with my birthday on it, and affirming "Hello, I am Celebrity, this is my Twitter account, and this is my birthday." Seems excessive but there are some articles where editors are pedantic – or carefully precise, depending on how you look at it – so I'd be looking to satisfy WP:ABOUTSELF as completely as possible, both in letter and in spirit. 122141510 (talk) 17:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I handle suspicions of a biased editor or an editor who might have a conflict of interest?

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    I have regularly interacted with an editor in a contentious topic area who appears to either have a bias or conflict of interest. When I raise this question, the editor consistently attacks me for violating WP:AGF. In addition, they continue to claim – or at least imply – they are the 'truly' NPOV editor, and must guard the topics against POV editing. This editor has a very large number of edits and seems to be held in regard by many, but they do not appear to investigate this person's overall edit history in the topic area, which are self-evidently contradictory and only ever cut one way. I previously tried WP:ANI and it did not succeed. (i.e. was that the correct venue, or are there other venues to investigate this? ANI did not seem to oblige them to comment on the contradictory nature of their edit contributions.) 122141510 (talk) 17:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:NPOVN or WP:COIN (depending if the problems is really their Point Of View or their Conflict Of Interest? Polygnotus (talk) 17:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would add that if you have any off-wiki evidence, social media profiles, that sort of thing, you should email it to the volunteer response team at paid-en-wpwikipedia.org. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Just Step Sideways: I doubt that very much, it is probably about User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish#ECR_Talk_page_reversion. Someone called Sean.hoyland gave great advice, which I will quote here: There is nobody stopping you from becoming extendedconfirmed and contributing to the PIA topic area.. Polygnotus (talk) 18:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is not regarding that case whatsoever. I made very expressly clear in an ensuing arbitration request I have no suspicion against that administrator and I actually consider myself, at best, incidental to said ensuing arbitration request. It is a different case where I suspect a NPOV issue, but another editor has raised the spectre of a conflict of interest which I can't imagine would be easy to prove – or even have great reason to suspect – but I figured I'd ask while I was here. 122141510 (talk) 18:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @122141510: Ok, my mistake, it was a bad guess. Polygnotus (talk) 18:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for your time. 122141510 (talk) 18:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    female vs women

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    There have been some discussions in the past about female vs women (e.g. female lawyer vs women lawyer) as categories.

    For example in 2006 and 2007 and 2013. Is there a rule about this written down somewhere? I tried WP:NAMING but couldn't find it. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 17:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Polygnotus, there isn't a rule. In a 2024 discussion the closer recommended "If there are individual categories that should be renamed, they should be nominated individually." TSventon (talk) 21:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TSventon: Thank you, interesting. I was hoping there was some simple black and white rule but life is never that binary. Polygnotus (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Polygnotus:, what were you hoping to do? WP:CATGENDER explains when we have female/women categories. If you have more detailed questions you could try Wikipedia talk:Categorization. TSventon (talk) 21:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TSventon: Well, as a stupid foreigner, Category:Female lawyers and Category:Female artists sounds better to me than Category:Women lawyers and Category:Women artists for example. So I was curious what system Wikipedia uses to determine what to use and why my brain considers Category:Women lawyers to be incorrect (unless they exclusively have female clients). Our glorious Elbonian works very differently. Polygnotus (talk) 21:51, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Archiving

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    I am working updating/correcting a page. Is there a way to archive what is already there so that version isn't lost?

    Thanks, S HillCollegeWikiEditor (talk) 20:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @HillCollegeWikiEditor: Old versions are automatically stored and available in the page history. See Help:Page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:07, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! HillCollegeWikiEditor (talk) 20:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Page deletion

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    hi I've been navigating through the Wikipedia and it's nearly impossible to find a page that may have been deleted it's a page on my theory of the expanding space time fabric beyond the background radiation I did it last year and somehow I can't find it anywhere I'd like to keep it and I'd like to post it because there is no information about a vacuum energy inside a super void past the background radiation to explain or counter the dark matter and dark energy theories so this is one of my first efforts and I'd really like to see this posted because of the it's possibly one of few explanations outside of dark energy and dark matter out there so please let me know where this article is and undeleted or not I'd like to see the text thank you PASCALVX1 (talk) 20:21, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @PASCALVX1: I can email you a copy of the page if you would like, but as it looks like it's just your theory and not supported by any reliable sources, it's not appropriate content for Wikipedia and you should not post it (or other original research) here in the future. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A version of your user page was deleted in November 2023. It is important to bear in mind that a user page is not a blog or a web host, and should contain only basic information about yourself.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Dark mode issues

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    In dark mode, at {{Stabbing Westward}}, the actual link for Stabbing Westward is an extremely dark grey that is difficult to see on a black background. Also, when editing, anything that is NOT a link is grey text on a white background. It was not this way before. Does anyone know how to fix this? --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Grey text on white background when editing
    Black text on black background when viewing
    --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I use Wikipedia:Dark_mode_(gadget) and it looks differently for me. What do you use? Polygnotus (talk) 22:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    July 29

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    If I go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad, I reach the iPad article. If I go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ipad, I should be taken to the same place, and I should get a little (Redirected from Ipad) notice. However, this message is not appearing. It's as if the titles are identical, or as if titles aren't case-sensitive. The only way to get this message is to go to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ipad, by going to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IPad&action=history, tweaking the URL, and clicking the "Article" tab.

    What's going on? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebay displays the "redirected from" notice, so it's probably not related to the first letter of the title being lowercased. It's not a single bad browser, because the same things happen in Edge and Chrome. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 04:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The first letter - only - is case insensitive. iPad and IPad are different ways to write links to the same page (the full article). Ipad and ipad are the same redirect to that article. ipAd is right out. —Cryptic 07:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    hi im new to wikipedia

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    hello, i think i just created my first article for wikipedia, when i did it, i did it from the TALLER part, and i published it, does that mean i actually created the page? I dont know how i am supposed to know if i have to make changes or something? and i dont know how to start another article? Success Coach LIZ (talk) 06:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Success Coach LIZ: Well, "publish" just means that you saved the text and it's publicly visible, for those who happen to look there. But the curious thing is what's shown at Special:Contributions/Success Coach LIZ. The only "contributions" (that is, edits which you have saved) is Wikipedia:Help desk. To me, that means that you weren't logged in under the username of "Success Coach LIZ".
    Perhaps you published without having logged in, i.e. as an IP editor. Since we don't know your IP address and you didn't give the name of the article (never mind whether you saved it to "sandbox" or saved it under your "User" (e.g. your IP address), there's not much way to figure out what you've done. Ok, that's my take on it, maybe somebody else has better mindreading skills. Fabrickator (talk) 06:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    i appreciate the guidance a lot! The article was about Ingeniera Elizabeth Coto Chinchilla, an industrial engineer recently discovered to have been the first woman in the field. I apologyze for not specifying the details before Success Coach LIZ (talk) 07:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In Costa Rica that is Success Coach LIZ (talk) 07:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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