User talk:Daniel Quinlan
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Please use section headers and add comments to the bottom. Thanks! — Daniel Quinlan
On WP:PIA primary articles and WP:ECR discretion
[edit]Hey. The Evyatar protection request was already archived, but I got your note via ping. So, my understanding and modus operandi is that admins don't have discretion about WP:PIA WP:ECR for non-preemptive requests (which I approach as at least one recent disruptive or otherwise contested edit by a non-WP:XC user) of primary articles. This in contradistinction to related pages, where I do feel like we have the discretion to add an expiration (recent example), or downgrade, or lift outright, anything else. Might be worth seeking clarification about this at WP:ARCA. Also ping @Nableezy: the filer of this request and a user who is more familiar with this area of arbitration policy than most admins. Thanks and best wishes, El_C 02:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- If you want to leave that particular article indefinitely ECP, that's fine with me. Someone can always make a request on WP:RFPU.
- Regarding WP:ECR, it says the
restriction is preferably enforced through extended confirmed protection, though this is not required
. Given that it says bothpreferably
andthough this is not required
, it seems quite intentionally discretionary and note that's for a page thatmostly or entirely relates to the topic area
. - Also, the next item intentionally includes page protection (even mentioning pending changes) which seems to indicate page protection is a broader option and not limited to indefinite ECP:
On any page where the restriction is not enforced through extended confirmed protection, this restriction may be enforced by other methods, including page protection, reverts, blocks, the use of pending changes, and appropriate edit filters.
- Finally, if you look at the enforcement logs for WP:CT/A-I, semi-protection and non-indefinite terms are definitely used sometimes in circumstances when the administrator deems it appropriate. I suspect that's due to articles being less related, less disrupted, or both. @ScottishFinnishRadish: Pinging you because you're the only person who responded to my question about this case on Discord (which I asked before the request was handled). Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:12, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Having just reviewed the article it looks a lot more ARBPIA primary topic than I originally assumed after reviewing the lead earlier. In general, if something isn't completely primary I go with something around 6 months to a year in hopes that the conflict will cool and the article won't see conflict related editing. In this situation, though, my initial impressions of the article were wrong. I saw the request come through while I was taking a break at work and only took a peek at the lead which led to me giving you bad advice. Sorry about that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 03:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. I was about to go with a year of ECP before I saw it had been handled. It's definitely in the topic area, but it's been almost free of disruption the last few years. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Daniel Quinlan, sure, protection could be supplanted with blocks and other actions according to 'preference,' but like WP:GS/RUSUKR and WP:GS/AA sanction regimes, the default of WP:ECR is indef WP:ECP. A default which (all) the respective logs reflect, though of course there are outliers. To touch on what SFR says, this page about the Israeli outpost is a primary article par excellence. Which unlike related content, is guaranteed to always remains so. It contains material that will remain contested and contentious for the foreseeable. El_C 03:52, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Having just reviewed the article it looks a lot more ARBPIA primary topic than I originally assumed after reviewing the lead earlier. In general, if something isn't completely primary I go with something around 6 months to a year in hopes that the conflict will cool and the article won't see conflict related editing. In this situation, though, my initial impressions of the article were wrong. I saw the request come through while I was taking a break at work and only took a peek at the lead which led to me giving you bad advice. Sorry about that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 03:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Ilia Topuria
[edit]Please semi-protect his page instead of fully protecting it. He is now the UFC Featherweight champion and those details cannot be changed. Please educate me on who made the choice to fully protect his page. Marty2Hotty (talk) 14:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- The article is fully protected because people were edit warring over his nationality. Right now, people are edit warring over his nationality on related articles such as List of UFC champions. There is an ongoing discussion at WP:DRN#Ilia_Topuria. Hopefully, we can lower the page protection level soon. The article has been updated now. If you would like to make any edit requests on the talk page, please make sure you include a
complete and specific description of the request, so that an editor unfamiliar with the subject matter could complete the requested edit immediately
. That includes providing a source if necessary. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 18:07, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Another sock of Boeing/City of London School vandals
[edit]Bobcomŵ appears to be another sock of the vandals at Boeing and City of London School. — Archer1234 (t·c) 10:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Probably. If they resume, please report them to WP:AIV. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 10:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
The article probably should have been protected, but I'm not sure BLP (or even BRDP) applies to someone dead for over 50 years. Was I missing something in the edits? Daniel Case (talk) 03:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- You're totally right, I must have autopiloted
the pulldown menu in Twinkle. I'll fix the log, etc. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)- Fixed. Calling it full autopilot. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry. You're not the only admin who's done this. A while back someone else protected Marlon Brando under BLP (I know his performances often make him seem immortal, but he has been dead for 15 years). Today I saw that in the past someone had cited BLP violations on a past protection of an article about a fictional character.
Daniel Case (talk) 20:44, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Don't worry. You're not the only admin who's done this. A while back someone else protected Marlon Brando under BLP (I know his performances often make him seem immortal, but he has been dead for 15 years). Today I saw that in the past someone had cited BLP violations on a past protection of an article about a fictional character.
- Fixed. Calling it full autopilot. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Suspected permissions gaming at recently protected page
[edit]Hey, Elim Garak a page you recently protected appears to have someone WP:PGAMEing and edit-warring should you please take a look?—blindlynx 23:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked. In the future, when you encounter this type of blatant disruption, could you please report it to the appropriate noticeboard such as WP:ANEW, WP:AIV, or WP:ANI? Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:13, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, will do! I wasn't sure what the appropriate board was but i guess anyone will do?—blindlynx 00:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. I probably would have used WP:ANEW for this one. If you look at the top of any of those pages, there's an index of noticeboards. For issues with disruptive users, look under the
User conduct
section. If there are multiple issues or it's especially urgent, WP:ANI is usually a reasonable choice. For spam and vandalism, use WP:AIV. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. I probably would have used WP:ANEW for this one. If you look at the top of any of those pages, there's an index of noticeboards. For issues with disruptive users, look under the
- Thank you, will do! I wasn't sure what the appropriate board was but i guess anyone will do?—blindlynx 00:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for March 5
[edit]An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Goodies (song), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Usher.
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Editor experience invitation
[edit]Hi Daniel Quinlan :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Graharipu
[edit]Admin sir, Please lock the Graharipu article. 2409:4085:8C87:3CA4:0:0:81C9:5B00 (talk) 23:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, please request page protection on WP:RPPI. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
[edit]Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:
- Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
- Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
- Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
- Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
- Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
- Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
- Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
- Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
- Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
- Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
- Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
- Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
- Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
- Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
- Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
- Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
- Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.
To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Edward Windsor, Lord Downpatrick
[edit]Hi there, could you take a look at Edward Windsor, Lord Downpatrick and perhaps re-introduce protections (if necessary)? It seems like the paid editors are back on there to reintroduce the same edits made by the sockmaster "Anne Barrington". I'm not entirely sure if they are *exactly* the same people from the SPI, as it is also possible that the individual themselves has engaged and paid other individuals that may or may not be "Anne Barrington". I've nevertheless made a report. Thank you. John Yunshire (talk) 16:03, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Invitation to participate in Wikipedia study
[edit]Hello, I have been contacting editors with experience in specific areas of editing to participate in a survey study. In order to limit access without forcing editors to disclose their identity in the survey form itself, I have been contacting them via email, which you have disabled for your account. If you would like to participate, please send me an email through Wikipedia and I will follow up with additional details and a link to the survey. Jonathan Engel (researcher) (talk) 13:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
The Lion King II
[edit]Hey, there. While I did open up a discussion about the recent changes at Talk:The Lion King II: Simba's Pride#Changes to the plot and lead a few days ago, I apologize if I have ever bitten the newcomers; it was never my intention to hurt or upset anyone. Also, keep up the good work, as usual. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Sjones23: Thanks. I did see that discussion which seems to have been somewhat productive and suggests that the new editor has something positive to contribute. I also want to emphasize that the guideline is not just about being welcoming, it's about educating newcomers through constructive feedback in edit summaries and talk pages. When newcomers' edits are reverted in a bitey way, instead of it being a learning experience, it often leads to edit wars. If you feel the need to apologize, perhaps offering one to the editor on the article talk page would be appreciated. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Also, as an addendum, the IP's edits to the plot summary turned out to be unneeded after all. Otherwise, thanks for your understanding. Best wishes, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Request renewing an IP block
[edit]Hi! Back in January, you blocked 2603:8000:2A00:3EE6:0:0:0:0/64. The same editor is back, engaging in the same pattern of edit warring and adding unsourced content. Given their history and some rather nasty personal attacks against me in the past, I'm inclined to request an extended vacation approaching three months. ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: Hi. That was a while ago and I don't remember them off the top of my head. Could you please report them to WP:ANEW? I'll try to take a look at the report later. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 05:04, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm nodding off now, so ANEW will have to wait a few hours. If you have a chance to take a peek before I get around to it, let me know. Otherwise, thanks for the heads up. ~ Pbritti (talk) 05:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Contentious topics question
[edit]Í don’t want to edit the page or anything, í just wanted to ask why the Chola Empire is a contentious topic. Blackmamba31248 (talk) 01:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- All edits related to related to India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan fall under WP:CT/IPA. The contentious topics article has more information and general sanctions is a good overview of all topics covered by sanctions (which includes contentious topics). Daniel Quinlan (talk) 05:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
About Analyticalreview
[edit]Looks like you already got a free trial of what dealing with that editor is like[1], also just saw this happened[2], apologies to everyone for all that (even though I'm not the main culprit). Pob3qu3 (talk) 03:40, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Can you protect this page please? Pornography is being spammed... Ecrusized (talk) 17:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Ecrusized: It looks like Acroterion already added a brief protection. If you ever need to request page protection, the fastest way is to submit your request at WP:RPPI. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry. I had to get this to somebodies attention fast because extreme hate speech was being spammed in edit summaries. Ecrusized (talk) 21:15, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine. It looks like the edit summaries have all been handled too, which is good. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry. I had to get this to somebodies attention fast because extreme hate speech was being spammed in edit summaries. Ecrusized (talk) 21:15, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
thanks
[edit]Thank you for stepping in and blocking an apparent vandal of Deaths in 2024 DarkStarHarry (talk) 18:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Your recent 24 hour block on User:FlyJet777
[edit]Just thought I’d let you know this editor has gone back to their old ways at the topic they were blocked for edit warring as soon as the block expired. Don’t know if you want to take another look? Equine-man (talk) 18:34, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- After reviewing things briefly, the edits from 82.211.205.45 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) that FlyJet777 is reverting look a little more like vandalism (i.e., removing candidates) than the edits in the previous content dispute. They could certainly be cautioned about their edit summaries being inadequate. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 19:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Equine-man I am just re-adding names of candidates that were previously removed by the IP address @Daniel Quinlan mentioned. So what wrong am I doing here? That was clearly vandalism and I reverted it. Precisely the reason I wrote "Rv vandalism" in the edit summaries. FlyJet777 (talk) 20:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @FlyJet777: You don't need to ping people on their own talk page.
- Only 37% of your edits have an edit summary which is rather low and when you do include an edit summary, it's often the default summary or minimal. If you're reverting vandalism such as this edit, please realize it's not going to be obvious vandalism to anyone unfamiliar with this election. Reversion of subtle vandalism is better explained with more than just "Rv vandalism". And if it truly is vandalism, you should also be warning the editor on their talk page (eventually reporting them to WP:AIV), not just reverting the change.
- It also seems like you are using the minor edit flag on some edits that should not be marked as minor:
A good rule of thumb is that edits consisting solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearrangement of text without modification of the content should be flagged as minor edits.
. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
List of equipment of the Armenian Armed Forces Protected Page Reasoning
[edit]Hello, I was wondering if you could explain the reasoning for protecting the page under the Armenia-Azerbaijan contentious topic, as it prevents new users like myself from making edits to the article. Also, the protection duration is indefinite, was wondering if you could also provide reasoning for that. Thanks UnknownHye (talk) 10:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- @UnknownHye: WP:GS/AA encourages administrators to use extended confirmed protection. I used an indefinite duration because the article had a significant history of reverted edits. After reviewing the article history, I have reduced the protection level to semi-protection. We may need to restore ECP if the article experiences significant issues at the new protection level. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 17:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Gazette protection reduction
[edit]Hi, I'd like to request a reduction in the level of protection you implemented at The Gazette (band). It definitely needs some protection, but the problem edits all came from IPs and one brand new editor. I suggest semi-protection cause it'd be nice to tidy it up a bit, like adding a secondary source for the death instead of just a primary one, and clean up stuff like the WP:SELFREDs and large amount of all caps. The article is getting a lot of views now, and I feel that last one in particular makes Wiki look bad. lol Xfansd (talk) 22:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Xfansd: I would like to lower the protection level, but it doesn't seem like sufficient headway has been made on the talk page towards resolving the content dispute that resulted in edit warring or at least explaining the relevant WP:MOS or policies to everyone clamoring for the change. If the band has indeed said something to the effect of the deceased band member being "eternal" then perhaps a consensus can be reached by mentioning it in the text of the article while keeping the infobox accurate. (If no such statement has been made then it's more of an exercise in explaining our policies and guidelines, linking the appropriate pages and sections, etc. And we could consider semi-protection based on unsourced changes.)
- Please feel free to ask me again if more headway is made. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, was about to message you to actually prolong the protection. Some fans already announced on Twitter that they would immediately change it again once the protection is over. They also don't seem like people one can talk reasonably to, insulting me as a POS, among other things: https://twitter.com/RUKICORE/status/1780610614164947395/photo/1 - so I'm afraid once the protection is gone, the page will simply just be vandalized again. Seelentau (talk) 13:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- That is unfortunate, sorry. Regardless, please try to assume good faith for people commenting on the talk page. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, was about to message you to actually prolong the protection. Some fans already announced on Twitter that they would immediately change it again once the protection is over. They also don't seem like people one can talk reasonably to, insulting me as a POS, among other things: https://twitter.com/RUKICORE/status/1780610614164947395/photo/1 - so I'm afraid once the protection is gone, the page will simply just be vandalized again. Seelentau (talk) 13:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Elegant variation
[edit]Thanks for the pointer to the WP:ELEVAR essay here. I definitely share some of those misgivings, which was why I labelled my replacement suggestions as only "near-synonyms". Nice work finding better ways to the same end!
Just for the record, the essay doesn't really touch on parts of speech other than nouns - or even on common nouns, after the very first illustration of the idea in the lede. Maybe it ought to be broadened, though? Or maybe not; the elegant variation article has somewhat similarly narrow scope, and directly addresses that point as well, so maybe other sorts of variation would not fit well under this umbrella?
- 2A02:560:59A1:EF00:51BD:7C45:D59E:A2DE (talk) 07:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Overdoing variation can be a problem with verbs too. It's also important to avoid inadvertently changing the meaning away from what sources state. My general approach is to look for opportunities to consolidate repeated information as suggested in WP:ELEVAR and to take cues from reliable sources. Those two approaches usually provide enough variation to alleviate the worst cases of overly repetitive text. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 18:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
The last edits to the Mexica are inaccurate. Not only are the dates wrong but the Mexica people are an existent ethnic group in Mexico today. The edit makes it seem like they no longer exist, which isn’t true — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:CF01:6AAD:78CA:676A:E1F7:A756 (talk) 13:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Question
[edit]Hello, colleague. How can I edit {{Wikipedia stats|tly|Talysh}} from Wikipedia:List of Wikipedias? With respect. Smpad (talk) 09:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- There's more information at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedias § Notes. I don't really know any more than what it says, but I hope that helps answer your question. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 11:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
[edit]Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
- Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
- Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
- Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
- Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
- Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
- Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
- Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
- Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed
See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Rapidly changing IP
[edit]Thanks for reviewing my RPP request. Saw your recent comment suggesting to warn the user, but since this IP is rapidly changing (sometimes multiple times per day), it is doubtful they are seeing them. Nevertheless, they've been warned here, here, and now here in addition to your warning. I will continue to carry it out until we reach the final level. The IP range appears to be a wireless mobile carrier, however, so page protection might be preferred over blocking the IP range should we reach that stage. Thanks. --GoneIn60 (talk) 13:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- @GoneIn60: I think that's enough warnings. It may help to discuss the disagreement on the article talk page where they seem to have engaged previously. An inline comment in the article is sometimes helpful as well. If they continue, I would recommend reporting 2600:1009:b100::/40 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) to WP:ANEW or WP:ANI. In cases where a disruption is from a single editor, page protection is generally not the first step as discussed in WP:PREEMPTIVE. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Fulfulde Wikipedia
[edit]okay is good I understand I talked with fulfulde Wikipedia community okay added me to English wikipedia editors group thank you so much here my WhatsApp number (Redacted) Adamu ab (talk) 06:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- In general, if you can't get help on the Fulfulde Wikipedia, then the Meta-Wiki is the best place to ask questions. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 09:30, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
That page was "permanently" semiprotected quite some years ago. It seems that someone decided to unprotect it, and the persistent troll is still at it. You should reimpose semi status not for a couple of months but for much, much longer. Like maybe another 10 years. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- This looks like the first occurrence of this recurring theme about the square, nearly 18 YEARS ago.[3] ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Baseball Bugs: When the article was unprotected, it did go six months without being disrupted again so it seemed appropriate to try a non-indefinite duration. If the same disruption resumes when protection expires, feel free to let me know and I'll strongly consider a longer duration (or make a request on WP:RFPP with these details). Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- I've also asked the guy who unprotected it a couple of years ago, to look into it. Evidently the troll wasn't checking it on a daily basis, but once he found out, he's been activated, so to speak. Like "releasing the kraken." I think there were some related articles that also required protection, but I don't recall just now what they were. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, we can't predict whether a disruptive editor will return and never unprotecting any indefinitely protected article would be a worse option. Pioneer Courthouse Square and Pioneer Square, Seattle seem like the primary targets. It's probably Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Pioneercourthouse who has a history of vandalizing the articles when they're semi-protected so ECP would be my inclination if they return. Anyhow, it's no big deal to reprotect them for a longer duration, possibly indefinitely, if and when it's needed. Regards. @HJ Mitchell: Pinging you as a courtesy. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, we can predict it, in this case. It was needed 18 years ago, and it still is. Keep in mind that the mere fact we have to talk about this is feeding that troll. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, we can't predict whether a disruptive editor will return and never unprotecting any indefinitely protected article would be a worse option. Pioneer Courthouse Square and Pioneer Square, Seattle seem like the primary targets. It's probably Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Pioneercourthouse who has a history of vandalizing the articles when they're semi-protected so ECP would be my inclination if they return. Anyhow, it's no big deal to reprotect them for a longer duration, possibly indefinitely, if and when it's needed. Regards. @HJ Mitchell: Pinging you as a courtesy. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- I've also asked the guy who unprotected it a couple of years ago, to look into it. Evidently the troll wasn't checking it on a daily basis, but once he found out, he's been activated, so to speak. Like "releasing the kraken." I think there were some related articles that also required protection, but I don't recall just now what they were. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Dabney Coleman
[edit]On 20 May 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Dabney Coleman, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 12:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Padlock Barnstar |
Thank you for doing the hard work on WP:RPP. Sorry I did not list every article to protect this time around. I appreciate your willingness to revdel as well, I know that it is a tedious task. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 06:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC) |
Rare
[edit]Although a word may have a rare spelling that doesn't mean it can't be in the article. That goes for the definition. Regarding the lead (lede) information presented there is not required to only be there. Delectable1 (talk) 06:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Delectable1. Alternative spellings are sometimes placed in the lead section, but the alternative spelling doesn't seem common enough to justify mentioning it in this article and the MOS encourages trying to avoid clutter in the lead section. You could start a discussion on the talk page if you think "cleptocracy" needs to be mentioned. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I was thinking people probably don't realize that you are an admin. Anyway, not necessarily wanting to get into a discussion with you but maybe a little back-and-forth would be fine. Assuming that you and I thoroughly know the Wikipedia guidelines or almost at least, I would say you and I could agree on adding some of the content (even without the rare spelling).Delectable1 (talk) 07:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm just an editor like anyone else on that article, not performing administrative actions. I think the definition in the lead section is probably sufficient, but the article would likely benefit from further discussion on the origination and rising usage of the term, provided we can find solid sources to support a new section of the article. And that might be a good place to further discuss the definition if there's more to be said than what's in the lead. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose I'll look at adding that.Delectable1 (talk) 07:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Protection
[edit]Hello Daniel Quinlan, you protected 2024 Indian general election in Tamil Nadu following my request at Rfpp for persistent sockpuppetry by WP:SPI/Srimonbanik2007. The master who has targeted the winning party Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam with different accounts for months is now using an IP range which was previously reported at the SPI, to restore the edits of their socks. The master is socking with IP and accounts almost everyday. Could you protect Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam for some months till the election trends calm down. Thanks. - SUN EYE 1 08:23, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sun Eye. Please submit a request at RfPP. I'll try to take a look later if it hasn't already been handled. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 08:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Original Barnstar |
Thank you for your recent edits to domperidone. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
I reported The Looney Tunes Show for page protection a while ago, which you granted. Unfortunately the slow "edit war" continues even after protection. I am starting to suspect there are some sockpuppets as well, but I not enough to go to SPI. I am not sure if this goes to the ANEW, AN, ANI, or DRN? Any thoughts? --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 04:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- If it's an edit war, you could report it to ANEW, but I would start by identifying the parties involved and issuing them an edit warring warning. If one or more people continue edit warring after being warned, then proceed to ANEW following the guidance for reporting issues there. You could also try to start a discussion on the talk page to air out the disagreements involved and see if consensus is possible. Finally, you could request full page protection on WP:RFPP, but I would recommend including specific examples to illustrate repeated edits, etc. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 05:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Sockpuppet Investigation
[edit]Dear @Daniel Quinlan I filed a sockpuppet investigation, for a user that you banned last week. Person uses other ip ranges and continue its edits. I would be happy if you review it. Thank you.
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/2003:EA:4F00:0:0:0:0:0 Göycen (talk) 09:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Gagniuc / Markov chain again
[edit]He's back. JBL (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've warned the editor. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 19:14, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Another IP from Romania has taken up the refspamming. I don't know if any action needs to be taken, but it seemed worth making a note of. XOR'easter (talk) 19:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @XOR'easter: The spamming was too long ago for a block to make sense, but thanks for letting me know. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- And they're back to Markov chain [4]. XOR'easter (talk) 18:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- This particular IP is continuing, and is spreading out to new targets: [5]. --JBL (talk) 23:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- This particular IP is continuing, and is spreading out to new targets: [5]. --JBL (talk) 23:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- And they're back to Markov chain [4]. XOR'easter (talk) 18:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @XOR'easter: The spamming was too long ago for a block to make sense, but thanks for letting me know. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:36, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Another IP from Romania has taken up the refspamming. I don't know if any action needs to be taken, but it seemed worth making a note of. XOR'easter (talk) 19:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi there. I'm part of part of couple of months long going dispute and preparation for RfC at Jinn, (starting around here). At the suggestion of Bookku (here), I was wondering if you could take a look at this post by VenusFeuerFalle and see if you find it in breach of WP:DR spirit of WP:AGF as Bookku (our informal dispute facilitator) and myself do. (I'm having trouble finding an admin to do this and found your name on WP:LA, so I hope this is not too far out of your comfort zone.)
Example:
I am willing to give the involved users one last chance, to make one clear suggestion, I want to respond one last time. Then we can go step by step over to the other ones. If it fails, I will not reply to that anymore, and then either the edits meet the Wiki-Criteria or they don't. If they do not meet them, they will be reverted, no matter of you understand the reason or not. Because, I just feel my time being wasted. If the users again derail the discussions, I will report Eagle and let an admin check on all involved users for canvassing, harrassment, and potential sockpuppetry.
Many thanks if you can help. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 16:32, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- It sounds like a complex situation. I recommend posting a report on WP:ANI following the instructions on that page. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 18:51, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Hello wikipedia adminstrator, regarding Masoud Pezeshkian article
[edit]it is good that the article is protected now, but before it was protected the ethnic background of mr pezeshkian was edited and now part of it is removed. please revert it to the previous version inwhich it states both of his paternal ethnic background. please check the last versions of the article historic before it was protected. i hope you revert it and add the correct information again which was sourced well. thanks--Hedayts (talk) 20:38, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hedayts: If there is a specific change you would like to request, you can make an edit request on the article talk page. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 20:47, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Please unprotect Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports
[edit]Hello. I'm writing regarding your recent protection of Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports.
That page is the only place that IPs are supposed to report false positive edit filter hits. I understand that there has been disruption recently, but we generally don't protect the page due to disruption—indeed, disruption occurs on the page almost every day. And, when we do block, it's usually for extremely short periods of time (such as mere hours), and only when absolutely necessary. I understand that this particular master enjoys hitting the page repeatedly, but would you please lift the protection (or at least shorten the length)?
Thank you!
— Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Red-tailed hawk. I literally just posted about this on WP:EFN because I was concerned 1 day might have been too long. I'll go ahead and lower the duration. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Red-tailed hawk: I lowered it to 3 hours. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Thank you! — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Red-tailed hawk: I lowered it to 3 hours. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Ali Ahmed (Soccer Player) Family Background
[edit]The first source cited in the article Ali Ahmed (soccer) states:
"Ali and his four siblings grew up in the Toronto district of Lawrence Heights — “The Jungle,” the locals call it, a neighbourhood fraught with gun violence and drive-bys — after their parents, mom Muna and dad Afendi, emigrated from Ethiopia’s Oromo region in the late 1980s."
The edit saying his parents are from the Oromo region of Ethiopia should be allowed. JavaNiceDay (talk) 04:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @JavaNiceDay: If there is a specific change you would like to request, you can make an edit request on the article talk page. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi, can I ask you (or any tps) to take a look at the recent changes to the above? I came across this as someone was editing elsewhere to try and include this person. It was a refirect to a London music publisher. This looks like a hijack to me? Many thanks, Knitsey (talk) 01:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like someone beat me to it. Both accounts are globally locked. Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 09:34, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank Daniel! Knitsey (talk) 15:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Economy of england
[edit]Dear Daniel, is there a chance the Economy of England could be unprotected or have a protection decrease? I'd love to edit it and improve it, and have some content to add with sources, but sadly nobody can. 2A0A:EF40:EDE:B201:4824:E15F:48BC:7448 (talk) 20:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- No, the current page protection level is appropriate and necessary due to severe sockpuppetry issues on the article. You can always make an edit request on the talk page to request a specific change. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- I hate sockpuppetry! 2A0A:EF40:EDE:B201:4824:E15F:48BC:7448 (talk) 21:14, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Disallowed edit
[edit]A private edit filter had prevented me from responding to the other Daniel's comment. Can you please allow it?197.0.60.67 (talk) 21:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- False positives should be reported at Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Another unsourced, low-quality article
[edit]The editor who created the POV fork article on the Souliotes, also created that unsourced article. I am not sure if it should go through the AfD process or be speedy deleted. Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ktrimi991. Someone redirected it and I deleted the copyright violations. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 01:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, much appreciated. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Email request because of suggestions to a private filter
[edit]I am requesting that you should email me because I have some sensitive regex/condition suggestions to add to private filter 1290 (hist · log) (in which it's better not to discuss this type of sensitive material here, and because you don't have email enabled), thank you. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 01:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I updated my preferences, go ahead. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Report of Potential Scam and Misleading Information on Intermedia (company) Page
[edit]I am writing to bring to your attention a serious issue with the Wikipedia article Intermedia (company). My Father received an email claiming to be from intermedia and offered my father to turn his book into film. They claim that they produced The Aviator and The Terminator among others-- which is an obvious blatant lie. The email contains a link to Intermedia wikipage and upon checking, it appears that the user Apon4971 has made edits to the article, including adding a website link that is being used to scam people. The link makes it seem as though the site is affiliated with a legitimate company, which it is not. The REAL intermedia is already defunct for more than 20yrs
Details of the Issue:
Article: Intermedia (company)
User: Apon4971
Scam Website Inserted [https://internationalmediaag.com/]
Problematic Edit: Insertion of a website link purported to be associated with Intermedia but used for scamming. Upon researching they scammed authors by offering them to turn their book into film and asking authors for money to kickstart the process.
Rationale for Reporting: The inclusion of this website link misleads readers into believing it is an official and legitimate resource, potentially causing harm to individuals who may fall victim to the scam. This action violates Wikipedia's guidelines on verifiability and reliability of sources, and it undermines the credibility of the encyclopedia.
Request for Action:
Review the Edits: Please review the recent changes made by Apon4971 to verify the insertion of the fraudulent website link.
Remove the Scam Link: If confirmed, kindly remove the misleading website link from the article.
Investigate the User: Consider investigating the editing patterns of Apon4971 for any further malicious activity and take appropriate action if necessary and possible. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I appreciate your efforts in maintaining the integrity and reliability of Wikipedia.
Best regards,
[Writer22222222] Writer222222 (talk) 23:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Writer222222: Done. If you see this sort of thing again in the future, I'd suggest reporting it to WP:ANI so it's seen by more administrators. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Harrison Butker
[edit]Hello,
Do you think you could protect the Harrison Butker page again, as you did two months ago? It is being repeatedly POV edited, bordering on vandalism. Multiple anonymous or very new editors are disruptively editing the page and have had to be corrected over and over. Thank you, TanRabbitry (talk) 18:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TanRabbitry: For protection and reprotection requests, could you please ask on WP:RFPP? Thanks! Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I did that as well, but it appeared that it takes a while. I thought I would ask you as well, since you protected it last time. If you're only supposed to request it on that page, I'll make sure do so in the future. Thank you, TanRabbitry (talk) 07:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @TanRabbitry: It just tends to work better that way because administrators have varying amounts of time to handle requests. In this particular case, I did happen to take a look at the article earlier, but I was concerned it looked like a possible content dispute and I didn't have a lot of extra time earlier to investigate further. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 08:32, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- I did that as well, but it appeared that it takes a while. I thought I would ask you as well, since you protected it last time. If you're only supposed to request it on that page, I'll make sure do so in the future. Thank you, TanRabbitry (talk) 07:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
2028 Winter Youth Olympics needs to be protected for a long time
[edit]I've had enough of these anonymous users adding Chinese cities to the 2028 Winter Youth Olympics page because they WON'T GIVE UP! This page needs to be protected for as long as it's needed. Josh0108 (alt) (talk) 16:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Admin's Barnstar |
For setting up User:Protection Helper Bot to automate re-protecting of pages. – robertsky (talk) 02:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks! Daniel Quinlan (talk) 02:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)