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Mistranslation on the translation that includes constructed cognates?

They seem to interpret fremedon as a plural of "freme" (meaning profit) when in actuality, fremedon is the plural to "fremman" (meaning perform or commit). The fremmen interpretation is much more accurate in context. https://bosworthtoller.com/12260 Vulturevalentines (talk) 07:12, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Vulturevalentines: The current interpretation is a verb ("promote"), but if you think it isn't very accurate, you certainly can rephrase it. — Eru·tuon 19:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect image

The article's title image is showing up as the Israeli flag for me. I'm not confident editing the page itself, and when I went to edit it described the image as something from Beowulf. Is this a glitch in my mobile app, or something that needs changing? Cheers. 109.180.83.49 (talk) 06:42, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There was some similar vandalism mentioned on the Helpdesk yesterday. I don't see the flag, so you could try a null edit to refresh your version of the page. TSventon (talk) 08:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"0ld English" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect 0ld English has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 4 § 0ld English until a consensus is reached. Bearcat (talk) 19:51, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong translation of "HVÆT"?

The translation of Beowulf starts with HVÆT! translated to "What!" but that makes little sense to me.

Isn't the more obvious translation: "Know!"? That is, the poem would recite the poem in front of an audience and start by telling them that they should pay attention. "Know that..."

I'm no expert on the subject, but as a Dane, that would make sense in Danish... To know = 'at vide'. The imperative is "Vid!"

2A02:AA7:410D:CADB:21C1:F4BD:E1B0:76B1 (talk) 12:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We would translate it as per the sources. There is no doubt, of course, that hwæt is the source of English what. But then there is the matter of semantic drift. This word really has no exact translation here. It has been translated so, listen, indeed and probably others. What is not unreasonable and if that is in a source translated text, we should not be changing it. We could, perhaps, use a different source text that translates differently, but that would affect the whole translation and not just that word. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently J.R.R. Tolkien used to begin his Oxford lectures with a loud "HVÆT". "What" seems a poor translation. Johnbod (talk) 13:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Surely it's worth keeping in mind that Tolkien was a scholar from several generations previous. It's not as if the corpus has grown or what have you, but I recall at least several occasions reading the opinion of contemporary scholars that translation as 'listen' is itself distinctly problematic, even if more natural on this end at first blush. Remsense ‥ 论 13:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]