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Official name

Hi guys. I would like for you to correct the name/title, at least on the titles, to its complete form. It's not just Orthodox Catholic church. The full title is Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic church, as it is also mentioned in the creedo. Now I've tried one too many times myself which resulted in me getting banned from editing it😂 (I appealed it by explaining that I was not vandalizing). I didn't try it again because couple of months ago I had noticed that they fixed it, but I see that they removed the apostolic part again. I won't try changing it because I don't actually know how to cite a source, so I'm leaving this wall here for someone to notice. Thank you 94.66.58.243 (talk) 04:01, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find an official document produced by a synod, council or otherwise similar event that states the name official name of the entire Eastern Orthodox Church is the "Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church" then feel free to add it and cite it.

It is worth note that many times, this Church is often just called the Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church (especially by its own members) and the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church as per the Nicene creed, but many official names exist and are used in conjunction with Orthodox Catholic Church. For instance, baptismal certificates from the Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America simply refer to the Church as the "Holy Eastern Orthodox Church" with no mention of Catholicity. Oogalee Boogalee (talk) 19:56, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic

For future reference, Arabic is a vernacular language of the Eastern Orthodox Church. Liturgical Languages would be those which have influenced traditions of Eastern Orthodox Churches and have a special place in the liturgy, such as Koine Greek or Church Slavonic. Arabic, on the other hand, is a vernacular language to the Orthodox Church in that it does not have a special significance like Greek or Slavonic does, and was not used widely by Orthodox Christians before the Muslim Arab conquests in the 7th and 8th centuries spread Arabic to Christian lands.

Furthermore, there is no "Arab Orthodox Church." Churches in Arabic-speaking lands almost entirely refer to themselves as Greek Orthodox. The traditional language of these churches is Greek, not Arabic, although Arabic is used in their services as the vernacular language. Oogalee Boogalee (talk) 19:47, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Orthodoxy in other countries

You must say that "It is one of the dominant religions in Albania and Bosnia-Herzegovina and there is a significant historical minority in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine". All this information must be in the paragraph where all the orthodox-majority countries are listed. 188.172.111.72 (talk) 21:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. Please indicate sourcing that supports this. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Church or Churches

They are not even in full communion anymore after the 2018 Moscow–Constantinople schism. And they have always been distinguished from each other along ethnic lines for hundred years. The title is misleading. I propose to change it to “Eastern Orthodox Churches”. We already got Oriental Orthodox Churches, so why does Eastern Orthodoxy got treated differently!? 75.157.108.212 (talk) 07:28, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Second largest

It is not the second largest it is the third largest even by the page given on second largest it shows a clear diagram of percentages with orthodox being way smaller than both protestant and catholic church Onlyloss6973 (talk) 06:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Protestantism comprises hundreds of smaller denominations rather than a single massive "Protestant Church". ~ Pbritti (talk) 06:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Orthodox church has smaller denominations like Coptics Oriental and others so your argument is false. All those protestant denominations are protestant they are part of a singular denomination called Protestanism Onlyloss6973 (talk) 07:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Eastern Orthodox Church is separate from the Oriental Orthodox Churches, which includes the Coptic Orthodox Church. Those are different groups that you're conflating. You are a bit confused here. ~ Pbritti (talk) 07:20, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But in the chart they are part of the same Orthodox branch i.e Orthodox it even mentions in the diagram which you can clearly see after entering the page in "the section second largest denomination" Onlyloss6973 (talk) 10:40, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Onlyloss6973: They might be part of the "Orthodox" branch, but they are not part of the Eastern Orthodox Church. This page is about the Eastern Orthodox Church. Eastern Orthodox Church comprises several churches that are in full communion with each other. Protestants are not in full communion with each other. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then the link given is very wrong and misleading Onlyloss6973 (talk) 13:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good explanation above by Vanjagenije, fully second that. The Eastern Orthodox Church is one church (and Oriental Orthodox are not part of it), which is the second largest church after the Catholic communion. Jeppiz (talk) 11:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]