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Obsolete racial classification

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“The Caucasian race (also Caucasoid,[a] Europid, or Europoid)[2] is an obsolete racial classification of humans based on a now-disproven theory of biological race.”

If races don't exist then how do you explain people being able to trace their predecessors through DNA analysis. 89.243.99.204 (talk) 00:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a question that often comes up. See our article Race (human_categorization), and in particular the section on forensic anthropology. For the most up-to-date scientific consensus on the topic, see this report or this summary. Generalrelative (talk) 00:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not an obsolete race category. It is a term used in legal documents in English speaking countries in Asia like Singapore. You can argue how to distinguish its living meaning from a historical meaning but a better case could be made that White is an obsolete race category since it was based on slavery and segregation laws and not even anthropology https://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5076/ 24.246.137.99 (talk) 12:27, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If legislators had made a law 200 years ago that everybody gets assigned to be either a "schnink" or a "schnonk" after birth, depending on a coin toss, those terms would probably be used in legal documents too. They would still not be real, and if the law back then had been based on a then-accepted scientific hypothesis which is now obsolete, the terms would be scientifically obsolete. --Hob Gadling (talk) 11:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless of whether or not the scientific community considers the term Caucasian to be obsolete, the community at large still accepts and uses the term. I think it best to focus on the definition of Caucasian as it is commonly used, and in a following section, note the various views of the scientific community. The introduction as it stands, strikes me as non-neutral. You may not like the term Caucasian, and you might have an agenda for its discontinuation, but Wikipedia is not a place for advocacy. CarlGrundstrom (talk) 16:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may like the term Caucasian, and you may have an agenda for its continuation, but Wikipedia is not a place for advocacy. Jokes aside, see WP:ACADEMICBIAS. Generalrelative (talk) 16:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No need to be insulting CarlGrundstrom (talk) 00:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Using Population Descriptors in Genetics and Genomics Research report suggests that racial terms are not appropriate for scientific classification and recommends against using them, for technical reasons, but also because racial terms have been used for social oppression. Genetic similarity is the recommended approach. This article sums up the points of the report nicely https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2816403
The authors are advocating a change in how scientific studies classify genetic differences that is different than how most existing scientific studies have done their classifications. CarlGrundstrom (talk) 13:59, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
CarlGrundstrom, after having a short look at that article, I don't understand why it should be relevant here. Could you please explain ? Rsk6400 (talk) 13:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2024

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Caucasian is NOT an obsolete term. It is used as a check box on ever police report in the USA. I just saw a friends sons state college application and it lists an option of caucasian as well. This page IS false information and is of opinion, not fact. 2601:8C:4B81:6AD0:CDF7:AAF1:27B6:5644 (talk) 18:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --AntiDionysius (talk) 18:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here ya go. Random application. See #5
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/23103629/final-report-forms-mission-college
and here on nature.com see figure 2
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-49202-0 2601:8C:4B81:6AD0:8486:5513:F6F8:E18D (talk) 21:26, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. Please use the form "Change X to Y" to specify the change you want to have made (but please read the hatnote first). Rsk6400 (talk) 06:57, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]