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Keir Starmer The New Popular Front wins the most seats in the National Assembly in the French legislative election but does not achieve a majority. The Labour Party wins the United Kingdom general election and Keir Starmer (pictured) becomes prime minister. Hurricane Beryl, the earliest-recorded Category 5 Atlantic hurricane in a calendar year, leaves at least 15 people dead in the Caribbean, Venezuela, and the United States. In the Netherlands, a new cabinet is sworn in, with Dick Schoof serving as the prime minister. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Jane McAlevey Rick Cluff Martti Wallén Audrey Flack Ismail Kadare Hugh Aldons view — page history — related changes — edit

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July 9

Portal:Current events/2024 July 9
July 9, 2024 (2024-07-09) (Tuesday)

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July 8

Portal:Current events/2024 July 8

July 8, 2024 (2024-07-08) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against infrastructure 8 July 2024 Ukraine missile strikes Thirty-seven people are killed and 170 others are injured after Russia launches a massive missile attack that hit residential buildings and civilian infrastructure in cities across Ukraine, including the Okhmatdyt children's hospital in Kyiv. (BBC News) Poland–Ukraine relations Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk sign a security agreement in Warsaw, Poland, allowing Poland to shoot down Russian missiles inside Ukrainian airspace. (Ukrinform) M23 offensive A United Nations report formally accuses the Uganda People's Defence Force of providing military support to the M23 rebel group in eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo. However, Uganda denies the claims. The report also claims that between 3,000 to 4,000 Rwandan soldiers are fighting alongside the M23 rebels. (Reuters) (France 24) Business and economy Thousands of Samsung Electronics workers begin a three-day strike in South Korea over demands for better pay and more annual leave. (Reuters) Paramount Global agrees to merge with Skydance Media in a $28 billion deal. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Hurricane Beryl Three people are killed in Houston, Texas, United States, as Hurricane Beryl makes landfall in Texas as a Category 1 hurricane. (NBC News) (Reuters) International relations Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 peace missions by Viktor Orbán, China–Hungary relations Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán makes an unannounced "peace mission" to Beijing, China, to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping following an unannounced meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday. (The Hill) India–Russia relations Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi visits Moscow, Russia, for the first time since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. (Al Jazeera) Japan–Philippines relations Japan and the Philippines sign a Reciprocal Access Agreement which allows the deployment of Japanese forces to the Philippines for military exercises. (AP) Poland–United States relations The United States announces a second $2 billion loan to Poland to support modernization of its military. (Reuters) Law and crime Boeing 737 MAX groundings Boeing agrees to plead guilty to a criminal fraud conspiracy charge to avoid going on trial in the United States on charges related to two fatal crashes involving its 737 MAX aircraft in 2018 and 2019. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 French legislative election President Emmanuel Macron rejects the resignation of Prime Minister Gabriel Attal, who is requested to stay on temporarily to ensure the stability of the country. (AP)

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Women's high-jump WR

Article: Yaroslava Mahuchikh (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In athletics, Yaroslava Mahuchikh breaks the 37-year-old women's high-jump world record (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Yaroslava Mahuchikh breaks the women's high-jump world record with 2.10 m, which had not been broken for 37 years.
News source(s): AP

One of the longest-standing records in athletics, from 1987. Women's high jump world record progression 81.196.30.56 (talk) 01:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose provincial sports trivia This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

You don't seem to understand what "world" means. HiLo48 (talk) 02:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• A world record is the exact opposite of a provincial story. Stephen 02:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support This is a notable world record which has been unbroken for 37 years. I've added an altblurb to reduce ambiguity. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Support altblurb1 article is in good condition, and it's notable because of how long the record stood; the altblurb reduces ambiguity, so that's why I prefer it over the original blurb. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 05:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Support Altblurb article is in a good shape and breaking decades old record is blurbworthy. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 06:07, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle. Article is also in good shape.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
• Issues There are several issues with this:

1. The target article doesn't have much of an update and has lots of uncited facts.
2. Another athletics world record was broken at the same event – see Guardian
3. This was a warm-up for the Olympics which we're about to run. I suppose more world records will be broken at that.
4. The record has not been ratified and there can be technical objections.
5. There are so many sports with so many stats that records are broken all the time. For example, Lewis Hamilton won the British Grand Prix on Sunday which extended his record of wins and was the first time a driver had won a race for the ninth time. At Wimbledon, there's an new amazing record. There was a recent record at the Tour de France which we didn't run. And so on...

Andrew🐉(talk) 07:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

From above "This is a notable world record which has been unbroken for 37 years." HiLo48 (talk) 07:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Jumping as high as possible is probably a much more mainstream world record than having the most victories in which the winning tennis player came back from two sets to zero. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 08:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

The cycling record had lasted for 55 years but we still didn't post it. These numbers seem fairly arbitrary and there will tend to be a natural plateau as sports are established and become mature. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC) (edit conflict)

If more people here understood Le Tour, we would have posted that cycling record, but comments made it obvious too many didn't and weren't interested in learning. HiLo48 (talk) 09:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

This is clearly less notable than Cavendish's record, as high jump has less news coverage than Le Tour. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment The article needs a couple of references, especially in the awards sections (the awards articles are cited so this is easy to fix), and some sentences in the prose also need sources. Other than that, all fine. If I remember correctly, we post breaking of long-standing records in athletics, as well as breaking of 100m and marathon whenever they happen (been a while since Usain Bolt but marathon got broken a couple of times in the past decade). --Tone 08:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
• I would be happy to support featuring this if the update was more extensive. I'd expect more details than "she broke the world record (2.10 metres) in high jump at the Wanda Diamond League in Paris." I imagine she didn't use a particularly different technique or anything, but surely we can write something about the five-second moment in which she made history? Perhaps even just an interview quote about how she felt about it? ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

  I used to write extensive updates on world records in athletics but got fully disparaged after an unfortunate discussion last year, so I decided to give up on it indefinitely because there's simply no point to produce content that some people don't value.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

  That discussion last year was a very similar case – two world records being broken at the Meeting de Paris. We have a full article for this event – 2024 Meeting de Paris – which is more substantial and would make a better target than just one of the athletes. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

  I am very sad to hear this. This was exactly what I was worried about. I have been active on this front-page feature because I hoped it would inspire people to write more detailed articles, but instead it only demotivates people who put the work in... ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose both on WP:ITNSIGNIF and WP:ITNQUALITY. Many world records get broken frequently and don't very often meet the significance to get posted- this has way less media coverage than Mark Cavendish breaking the Tour de France record last week, which didn't get consensus to post. And Mahuchikh's article and 2024 Meeting de Paris each have 2 sentences about it, which is not enough to meet the quality threshold. Picking this world record over any others (including the other one broken at the same event) would be arbitrary as it hasn't demonstrated enough coverage. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes, "Many world records get broken frequently", but this one hasn't been. That sort of comment suggests you haven't read the previous discussion. It's quite unhelpful, AND irrelevant! 10:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose I don't really have much of a stance on the notability of this event, though only two sentences of an update seems too little to get a blurb. Gödel2200 (talk) 11:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

July 7

Portal:Current events/2024 July 7

July 7, 2024 (2024-07-07) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Israeli strikes across Gaza kill at least 27 Palestinians. In Gaza City, four are killed in a strike on a UNRWA school sheltering displaced people and six others are killed in a strike on a house. Two people are killed in the Sabra neighbourhood, and six others are killed in a strike on a residential building in Az-Zawayda. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Hurricane Beryl 120 counties in the U.S. state of Texas are under a disaster declaration as Tropical Storm Beryl approaches the Gulf Coast. (The Guardian) At least 14 people are killed and others are missing in flash floods and landslides caused by heavy rain in Nepal. (Al Jazeera) Thirteen people are injured when an elephant chases a crowd attending a Hindu religious festival in Kataragama, Sri Lanka. (Al Arabiya) The Iranian naval frigate IRIS Sahand capsizes during repairs in the port of Bandar Abbas, Iran. (Reuters) At least ten people are killed in a fire at a nursing home in Treinta y Tres, Uruguay. (Reuters) International relations Niger–United States relations The U.S. military withdraws entirely from Niger's Air Base 201 in Niamey. (Reuters) Syrian–Turkish normalization Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan states his intention to invite Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for talks in Turkey with the intention of restoring relations between the two countries. (Reuters) Health and environment 2024 North America heat waves Las Vegas, Nevada, United States, reaches 120 °F (49 °C), the city's highest temperature of all time, and surpassing the previous record of 117 °F (47 °C) set in July 2021. (KTNV-TV) (Las Vegas Review-Journal) Politics and elections 2024 French legislative election French citizens vote in the second round of legislative elections for the 17th National Assembly of the Fifth Republic. (Le Monde) Exit polls predict a hung parliament, with the left-wing New Popular Front alliance winning the most seats, followed by President Emmanuel Macron's centrist Ensemble coalition in second place, and the far-right National Rally in third place. (BBC News) Prime Minister Gabriel Attal announces that he will resign on July 8. (Reuters) Confederation of Sahel States, ECOWAS ECOWAS states that it risks disintegrating from military and economic insecurity if Niger, Mali, and Burkina Faso continue their exit to form their own confederation, following sanctions and severed diplomatic ties after each state's military coup. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war protests in Israel Israeli protesters march and block highways across Israel, calling for a ceasefire, the return of all hostages, and for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to step down. (AP) Science and technology Four volunteer NASA crew members finish the first 378-day Crew Health and Performance Exploration Analog mission to simulate living on Mars at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, United States. (AP) Sports Yaroslava Mahuchikh breaks the world record in women's high jump, which had stood for 37 years. (Reuters)

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RD: Bengt I. Samuelsson

Article: Bengt I. Samuelsson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SVT
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:95E7:6EC1:9755:1E3E (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Swedish biochemist and Nobel laureate. 240F:7A:6253:1:95E7:6EC1:9755:1E3E (talk) 13:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose article is orange-tagged. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose two orange tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 06:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jane McAlevey

Article: Jane McAlevey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Infopetal (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Unreferenced date and place of birth. Schwede66 10:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support That has been rectified. Bremps... 13:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Looks ready. Thriley (talk) 20:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 01:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 French legislative election

Article: 2024 French legislative election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The New Popular Front obtains a relative majority in the National Assembly following the 2024 French legislative election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The New Popular Front wins the most seats in the National Assembly following the 2024 French legislative election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The New Popular Front obtains a plurality in the National Assembly following the 2024 French legislative election.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Prime Minister of France Gabriel Attal resigns after the New Popular Front obtains a plurality in the National Assembly following the 2024 legislative election.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ In the French legislative election the New Popular Front becomes the largest bloc in the National Assembly, but fails to win an overall majority
Alternative blurb V: ​ In France, the legislative election results in a hung parliament, with the New Popular Front obtaining a plurality.
News source(s): Le Monde
Credits:

• Nominated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit)

Unexpected result, as the National Rally and their allies were originally predicted to get the most seats, but only came in third place after the NPF and Ensemble. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait. We still need a clearer idea of what the results were; this is a much murkier situation than last week's UK vote. (where Labour clearly won a decisive majority that lined up with expectations; contrast here where we have a surprise result) Also, given that even the article linked for "relative majority" itself is called Plurality, I would recommend the blurb actually use that to avoid confusion. Nottheking (talk) 21:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait the results sections is missing information once filled support Shadow4dark (talk) 20:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Is there a result yet? I was literally just looking at a couple of news sites, that says the far-right and fascists weren't doing as well as expected, but I didn't see any breakdowns. But hang on - I'm no expert on France politics - but the New Popular Front is alliance of over 50 political parties - including the Pirate Party and the Guadeloupe Communist Party? I'm not sure I get this one, compared to most countries where there's only up to a half-dozen viable parties. Nfitz (talk) 21:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  • There are indeed many parties under the NPF, although only four of them (La France Insoumise, the Socialist Party, The Greens and the French Communist Party) have a substantial presence in the National Assembly. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Hi, I'm the primary contributor to this article. There isn't an officially aggregated national result yet, but it will be published by the Ministry of the Interior later here and added once that happens. The NFP is a broad electoral alliance of the main parties of the left as well as numerous smaller formations which had their candidates nominated in a small number of districts, as depicted here. It's an unusual situation, but with such a short timeline this was agreed upon quickly to allow the parties of the left to have the best chance of getting candidates elected rather than splitting the vote in the two-round electoral system. 73.169.176.209 (talk) 22:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

    How long does it take for the vote to be finalized by the government? Here it can take weeks, even if the incumbent conceded within an hour of the polls closing. Surely in the interim, putting in preliminary results from a reliable source suffices in many other places. Should be the same, unless the Pirates steal some poll boxes. Nfitz (talk) 00:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

    I missed this reply, but results are mostly set here (calculated for the alliances as noted in footnotes B and C, using the Ministry of Interior reference). 73.169.176.209 (talk) 01:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• I've added alt1, which to me is just the best non-confusing way to explain this result. I do wish to wait for results to be updates to a certain degree we shouldn't post a blurb saying "x coalition won" or similar when most results are not confirmed to prove this yet on our end. DarkSide830 (talk) 22:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait According to the table in the National results section, 501 seats in the national assembly have yet to be announced, so it is too early to post. Gödel2200 (talk) 22:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  The table should be updated, all but three seats have been called right now (according to Le Monde). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  They're not aggregated by the Ministry of the Interior just yet (various news outlets create their own classifications of candidates, so the counts of votes and seats won tend to differ between them); we've always used the Ministry of the Interior ones because they're official classifications and the others are unofficial classifications. Also added alt3 but not official until tomorrow 73.169.176.209 (talk) 23:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support once final results are put forward This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 00:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Provisional results have been posted and only slight shifts should be expected at this point. 73.169.176.209 (talk) 01:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt II pending the appointment of the new prime minister. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• I struck alt3 (after proposing it) because it might not happen anytime soon. 73.169.176.209 (talk) 03:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Propose ALTV unless a government is somehow formed. The Kip ^(contribs) 02:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  I'd go with this if it becomes clear in the next few days that they are not going to be able to form a new government. For now I'd stick to Alt II until the dust settles. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:04, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support any of the proposed blurbs, with alt2 or 5 as my preference. Would support blurbing again if/when a new PM is chosen, since even though Attal resigned (and is continuing as caretaker) it doesn't seem like this will be resolved anytime soon. Davey2116 (talk) 03:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt2 or alt4 once it’s ready Those seem like the best blurbs. However, the “Potential outcomes and pre-election comments” subsection in the “Aftermath” section seems like it’s awkward now that the election has happened. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 04:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• I took a stab at addressing those issues here, feel free to trim or reorganise further. 73.169.176.209 (talk) 05:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Deadlock is the word preferred by headlines such as "French Election Yields Deadlock..." and "France Faces Deadlock...". What's going to happen now seems quite unclear. Will France have to resort to a civil servant as PM like the Netherlands or what? One detail of language which is interesting is the word insoumise which appears in the name of one of the many parties. This seems to mean "unruly" and "insubordinate" and the result seems to confirm France's reputation for being ungovernable. We should avoid a blurb which gives the impression that someone has won and perhaps wait until the outcome is clearer. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:07, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  Insoumise means "unbowed", not "unruly" or "insubordinate". 2001:BB6:47ED:FA58:C4C2:46FA:6F20:8082 (talk) 08:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  It literally means not soumise or not submissive. The exact meaning depends on the context but it indicates that they won't be compliant or obedient, i.e. ungovernable. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

That's not my understanding of this at all, and appears to be a fringe interpretation. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

My understanding comes from the Collins-Robert French Dictionary which is not fringe. It gives the meanings as refractory, rebellious, insubordinate, undefeated, unsubdued. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• I don't think the name of one of the parties should be taken as evidence that France has become ungovernable... Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 07:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  The NYT report says "France looked near ungovernable ... The result was that ... no governing coalition appeared immediately conceivable..." while the FT headline is "France heads back to its postwar era of ungovernability". Andrew🐉(talk) 11:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Posted - I've gone with a bit of a hybrid of some of the alts above. It's been discussed before that we don't use the term plurality at ITN, as it's not widely understood globally, and I thought worth noting that the NPR also didn't achieve a majority in addition to saying they won the most seats.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  I think that's a good solution. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

  Good hybrid, thanks! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 07:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

  2024 French legislative election currently has Lua-related template errors (likely due to having too many templates), which prevents most references from displaying correctly. Felt like this was important to note here given that the article is currently linked from the Main Page. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 11:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

July 6

Portal:Current events/2024 July 6

July 6, 2024 (2024-07-06) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least 16 Palestinians are killed by an Israeli strike on a school housing displaced Palestinians in Nuseirat refugee camp in Gaza. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 North America heat waves Maricopa County, Arizona, United States, investigates over 160 suspected heat-related deaths related to ongoing heat waves in Arizona, California, and Oregon. (AP) 2024 Sulawesi landslide An illegal gold mine collapses amid heavy rains in Sulawesi, Indonesia, killing 11 people and leaving 19 more missing. (Al Arabiya) Fourteen people are killed and another person is critically injured when an oil truck collides with a minibus in Rivne Oblast, Ukraine. (Reuters) International relations Alliance of Sahel States Nigerien military junta president Abdourahamane Tchiani, Burkinabè President Ibrahim Traoré, and Malian President Assimi Goïta sign a reciprocal defence pact and mutually reject ECOWAS, accusing it of being influenced by foreign interests. (Al Jazeera) Germany–Hungary relations, 2024 peace missions by Viktor Orbán Hungary suddenly cancels a meeting between Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó and German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock on 8 July in Budapest, after she planned to discuss Hungarian PM Viktor Orbán's uncoordinated meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow. (Politico) Law and crime Four people are killed and three others are injured in a mass shooting in Florence, Kentucky, United States. The perpetrator later commits suicide. (The Independent) Politics and elections British Prime Minister Keir Starmer officially cancels the Rwanda asylum plan, proposed by former prime ministers Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. (Reuters)

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RD: Joe Egan (musician)

Article: Joe Egan (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NME
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:38AB:9905:A2DA:8D62 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Refsworldlee (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Scottish musician and co-founder of Stealers Wheel. 240F:7A:6253:1:38AB:9905:A2DA:8D62 (talk) 01:15, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose not ready, article needs expansion. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 06:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose - I agree with previous comment. Little more than a stub in substance. Ref ^(chew)(do) 06:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Khyree Jackson

Article: Khyree Jackson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Engineerchange (talk · give credit)
• Updated by PeeJay (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

NFL cornerback recent death. --Engineerchange (talk) 18:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support RIP, a tragic death. Article is in a good enough shape. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 14:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Support nothing holding back this article about an NFL player. Bremps... 21:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Support and André Drege too. Both sportsmen of the same age who had their lives tragically cut short on the same day. Both articles seem good, though Jackson's is more detailed. 1779Days (talk) 23:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

We can nominate that one independently. Bremps... 01:41, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Date and place of birth are both unreferenced. Schwede66 10:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@Schwede66: Fixed. Typically on NFL player articles that information is pulled from the ESPN or NFL biography and not appropriately cited. --Engineerchange (talk) 16:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Mirta Díaz-Balart

Article: Mirta Díaz-Balart (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CiberCuba
Credits:

• Nominated by Gödel2200 (talk · give credit)

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First wife of Fidel Castro. Gödel2200 (talk) 18:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose given the lack of detail in her article, which is rated Start class. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait there are some more references needed otherwise article is okay. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait More citations needed. Bremps... 22:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Masoud Pezeshkian elected President of Iran

Article: 2024 Iranian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Masoud Pezeshkian (pictured) is elected President of Iran. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Iran, Masoud Pezeshkian (pictured) is elected president in the second round of the 2024 presidential election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Iran, the reformist candidate Masoud Pezeshkian (pictured) is elected president in the second round of the 2024 presidential election.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Iran, the reformist candidate Masoud Pezeshkian (pictured) is declared the winner of the second round of presidential elections.
News source(s): New York Times BBC
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He is elected president of Iran. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 06:02, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• comment blurb should mention that this "election" was held by a totalitarian government headed by the dictatorial ayatollahs. Else we risk presenting it as a genuine expression of the will of the people and not a fake election no different from those under the regimes of dprk, china or soviet union which wikipedia AFAIK previously did NOT post Kasperquickly (talk) 06:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

  All Iranian presidential elections since 2009 have been posted to ITN. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 07:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

  As far as you know wikipedia didn't post any Soviet elections to ITN? That's a bold claim. --2001:8003:1C20:8C00:F211:A254:7DA9:FB24 (talk) 08:47, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

  Issue is not very notable , anyone can read the whole article if they want to know election legitimacy AlexBobCharles (talk) 13:53, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

  soviet union which wikipedia AFAIK previously did NOT post

  ...you are aware Wikipedia was founded some years after the USSR ceased to exist, right?

  Your personalized commentary is becoming indicative of an attitude unfit for ITN/C, this isn't the first time it's happened. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

  • nods* Concur with The Kip... This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  We did post Xi Jinping's securing of a third term. Bremps... 21:09, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support It seems that there was a significant choice between Pezeshkian and his main hardline opponent. The article is short but seems adequate in providing basic info for our readers. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:41, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality article has three orange tags. Will change to support once quality issues are fixed. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 07:14, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose bold article has three orange tags and Masoud Pezeshkian's article have some paragraphs without footnotes. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 07:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support I want to note that Pezeshkian is the first reformist candidate for quite some time (I've seen The Atlantic's Arash Azizi place that date at 2005, which was the end of Khatami's term), and noting the state that the reformist parties have been as of the 2020s. Might be a potentially good idea to note that he is the reformist candidate in the blurb. Ornithoptera (talk) 08:04, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support Should note that Pezeshkian is a reformist .I will note that some of the bold articles sources dont seem to very reliable and are close to the Iran government. AlexBobCharles (talk) 13:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose due to three orange tags on the article. Also, there is no need to mention that Pezeshkian is a reformist in the blurb. All we should say is the result of the election. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Wait because Pezeshkian's article is incomplete and needs further detail. 2601:280:5C01:B7E0:E19C:E87A:9597:AE72 (talk) 14:52, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality as target article is orange-tagged. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support; proposed altblurb to use the "declared winner" language we tend to use for dubious elections This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 03:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support; on notability --GodNey (talk) 08:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support with current wording; elections in Iran aren't free, but they are fair. No need to use "declared" or similar phrases. AryKun (talk) 19:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  There's serious doubts about the fairness of elections as well, they possibly manipulated numbers in the first round, there is valid sources supporting this idea. 3000MAX (talk) 21:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

  +1 Jeeputer ^Talk 03:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support for its notability. Although the article is currently orange-tagged, this is related to the lack of attention from enough fluent Persian speakers (or people able to use auto-translators sufficiently well). The benefit of the extra attention of ITN may help improve the quality of the article sufficiently to justify the removing the tags, so an exception to the general rule may be acceptable in this case. Boud (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality this election is WP:ITNR, so only consideration is article quality (thus all the "support on notability" votes are irrelevant). And there are 3 valid orange tags that need fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment - by which criterion is this WP:ITN/R? The government bit says "Changes in the holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government", but our article President of Iran notes that "Unlike the executive in other countries, the president of Iran does not have full control over the government, which is ultimately under the direct control of the Supreme Leader". Thus this role is somewhat more of a figurehead and should be judged on its own merits rather than being given an automatic pass.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I would imagine it was marked as ITNR because it was thought to be a general election. Looking at the three different elections that took place in Iran this year, it is not at all clear to me which one was the general election, so this might not be ITNR. Gödel2200 (talk) 11:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

The president of Iran does not hold the highest political authority, but does have many of the powers of an executive president, and is not just a figurehead. Among the Reformist presidents, Khatami was generally seen as having a big influence; Rouhani's reformist actions were generally seen as less successful; Ahmedinejad's role as a hardliner president was generally seen as him being mostly in control of executive power. Relations between the West and Iran have changed significantly between Reformist and hardliner Iranian presidents. This does satisfy ITN/R in any reasonable interpretation of real political power and both national and international effects. Boud (talk) 19:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't think there is any question of whether this election should be posted. But ITNR specifically says changes in the people who administer the executive of their country qualify, and according to the List of current heads of state and government article, that position is the supreme leader, not the president, so the election would technically not qualify for ITNR under that clause. Gödel2200 (talk) 21:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

In Iran, the president is the head of government. See President of Iran. He chooses all ministers and cabinet members. The supreme leader is the head of state, but not the head of government. 175.159.120.175 (talk) 09:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

July 5

Portal:Current events/2024 July 5

July 5, 2024 (2024-07-05) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war At least seven Palestinians are killed during an Israeli military raid in Jenin in the West Bank that targeted a building that several militants had barricaded themselves in. (Reuters) Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip A review article published in the medical journal The Lancet estimates the total death toll of Palestinians in Gaza to be at least 186,000 compared to the currently reported number of 38,000, around 8% of Gaza's pre-war population. This is attributed to the lack of reporting for indirect deaths, as well as the lack of operating hospitals and officials to report those deaths. (The Lancet) (NPR) Sudanese civil war Sennar offensive The Rapid Support Forces captures Dinder, Sudan again, after it was briefly recaptured by the SAF on 4 July. The town was first captured by the RSF on 2 July. (Sudan Tribune) Kivu conflict M23 offensive M23 rebels and the FARDC agree to a two-week humanitarian truce proposed by the United States. The positions of the two groups are separated by about 1 kilometre in Matembe. Access to many areas remains difficult for humanitarians. (Radio Okapi) Business and economy The European Union imposes tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles of up to 37.6%, prompting the Chinese Ministry of Commerce to investigate possible retaliatory tariffs on European pork and brandy imports. (Reuters) The Cabinet of Germany agrees on a 2025 budget plan, averting collapse of the current cabinet following party disagreements and pressure from The Greens to forego its "debt brake" to increase emergency borrowing for Ukraine aid. (AP) Disasters and accidents Hurricane Beryl Hurricane Beryl makes landfall on the Yucatán Peninsula in Mexico after killing twelve people in the Caribbean. (AP) At least 89 people are killed and dozens are missing after a boat carrying migrants capsized off the coast of Mauritania. (Al Arabiya) Ten people are killed and 42 others are injured when a bus crashes into a bridge in São Paulo state, Brazil. (Reuters) Five people are killed and 83 others are injured by a tornado in the province of Shandong, China. (AP) The Mount Etna and Mount Stromboli volcanoes on the Italian island of Sicily erupt, forcing a temporary closure of Catania–Fontanarossa Airport. (Al Jazeera) A dam failure in Buru Regency, Indonesia, caused massive flooding. (CNN Indonesia) International relations Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Russia–Hungary relations, 2024 peace missions by Viktor Orbán Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán meets with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, Russia, after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Tuesday, prompting condemnation among European Union member states. (Politico) Law and crime Attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung A district court in Busan, South Korea, sentences the perpetrator in the stabbing of National Assembly member and former opposition leader Lee Jae-myung to 15 years in prison. (Al Jazeera) Greece passes a law to allow a six-day work week for industries that operate on a 24-hour basis. Workers have the option of working an additional eight hours for 40% additional pay. (CBS News) (NPR) Catholic Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò is found guilty of schism for denying the legitimacy of Pope Francis and rejecting the Second Vatican Council, and is subsequently excommunicated by the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 United Kingdom general election Conservative Prime Minister Rishi Sunak concedes defeat to Labour Party leader Keir Starmer, ending 14 years of Conservative government. (Sky News) (BBC News) Keir Starmer formally becomes Prime Minister after accepting an invitation from King Charles III to form a majority government. (Mirror) (BBC News) Rachel Reeves is appointed as the UK's first ever female Chancellor of the Exchequer in the Starmer ministry. (ITV News) 2024 Iranian presidential election A second round run-off is held between reformist Masoud Pezeshkian and ultra conservative Saeed Jalili to become the 9th President of Iran. (Reuters) Masoud Pezeshkian wins the Iranian presidential run-off. (The Guardian)

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RD: Liana Isakadze

Article: Liana Isakadze (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Strad
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

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Prominent Georgian violinist, child prodigy, all over Europe early, then also conductor and artistic director of the Chamber Orchestra of Georgia, festival creator internationally. The article was practically a mirror of her website, which is no longer live but there in an archived copy in German. Much better since we got a Strad obit today. The long lists of conductors and colleagues are not referenced other than her site, but are credible I think. Help by someone knowing Georgian wanted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Slight oppose The stuff about Facebook is uncited. Listing a paragraph of names isn't the best way to present info to a reader. Otherwise, the article is alright. Bremps... 12:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

The facebook thing can only be cited to her website, which I try to avoid. We could do it, or drop it, or find another ref. - I hate these lists, I really do, but - as I said above - I have no time to look for more detailed records of her music making. Repeating: help wanted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I added the cite to her website. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Stanley Moss

Article: Stanley Moss (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)

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Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Question Are the books in his bibliography fine if they aren't cited (as they are effectively their own citation)? Anyway, the Amazon links certainly need to be removed so Oppose for now. Bremps... 04:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

They are their own citation, but they require ISBNs. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Vic Seixas

Article: Vic Seixas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:64C5:9819:81E5:D319 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Renewal6 (talk · give credit)

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American tennis player. 240F:7A:6253:1:64C5:9819:81E5:D319 (talk) 23:43, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• The stats tables after the prose could use some sources, please. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 01:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jon Landau (film producer)

Article: Jon Landau (film producer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
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American film producer. 240F:7A:6253:1:64C5:9819:81E5:D319 (talk) 23:16, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Awards and Filmography section needs sourcing and Career section needs a lot of expansion. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

July 4

Portal:Current events/2024 July 4

July 4, 2024 (2024-07-04) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Islamic terrorism Eighteen leaders of Jemaah Islamiyah announce the disbanding of the group, after 31 years of operation. The group committed several massacres in Indonesia, including the 2002 and 2005 Bali bombings. (Al Jazeera) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Hezbollah launches at least 200 rockets and a swarm of drones at Israeli territory and threatens to expand its targeting range, in retaliation for the killing of Mohammed Nasser, a top Hezbollah commander. (Reuters) Israeli occupation of the West Bank Israel approves the construction of 5,295 settler homes in dozens of settlements in the West Bank, which are internationally recognized as violating international law. (AP) Ituri conflict Six Chinese gold miners and two Congolese soldiers are killed during an attack against a gold mine in Ituri Province, Democratic Republic of the Congo. Two other workers are kidnapped. CODECO claims responsibility for the attack. (AP) Syrian civil war The Islamic State kills eight people, including two civilians, in an ambush on pro-government militiamen in Syria's Badiya desert. (Al Arabiya) Business and economy Hudson's Bay Company, the parent company of Saks Fifth Avenue, completes a merger and purchases luxury department stores Neiman Marcus and Bergdorf Goodman for $2.65 billion. (NPR) Disasters and accidents Hurricane Beryl Hurricane Beryl causes a six- to nine-feet high storm surge and fierce winds along Jamaica's southern coast, killing at least one person before tracking towards the Cayman Islands. (CNN) Twenty-five people drown in southeast Sudan while trying to flee fighting between the Sudanese army and the Rapid Support Forces. (Khaleej Times) Three people are killed and seven others are injured when a pickup truck is driven into a crowd celebrating Independence Day in the Lower East Side of Manhattan in New York City, United States. (Reuters) Health and environment Eleven people die and another 153 people are diagnosed with West Nile fever in an ongoing outbreak in Israel. (Anadolu Agency) International relations Germany–Turkey relations Germany summons Turkey's ambassador to Germany in a tit-for-tat move over footballer Merih Demiral's wolf salute gesture while celebrating a goal at a UEFA Euro 2024 match in Leipzig, Germany, on Tuesday. (CNN) The Shanghai Cooperation Organization officially grants membership to Belarus. (Yahoo! News) Law and crime Violent incidents in reaction to the Israel–Hamas war Antisemitism during the Israel–Hamas war Greek anti-terrorism police arrest seven people over arson attacks against an Israeli-owned hotel and a synagogue in central Athens. (Reuters) Mass shootings in the United States Fourth of July shootings Thirty-three people are killed in mass shootings at Fourth of July celebrations, with 11 people killed and 55 others injured in Chicago, Illinois, two people killed and three others injured in Huntington Beach, California, one person killed and six others injured in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and one person killed and five others injured in Boston, Massachusetts. (AP) 2022 Oslo shooting Oslo District Court finds Iranian-born Norwegian Zaniar Matapour guilty of a shooting during pride celebrations in the Norwegian capital in 2022 and sentences Matapour to 30 years in prison. (CBC News) M23 movement The Butembo military court in North Kivu, Democratic Republic of the Congo, sentences 25 FARDC soldiers to death for allegedly fleeing fighting against M23 rebels. (Al Jazeera) Belarus frees ten political prisoners including former opposition leader Ryhor Kastusioŭ. (Reuters) The Peruvian Congress votes 15–12 to pass a law introducing a statute of limitations on prosecuting crimes against humanity committed before July 2002. (ABC News) French film director Benoît Jacquot is charged with the rapes of actresses Julia Roy and Isild Le Besco between 1998 and 2000, and "rape, sexual assault and violence" committed between 2013 and 2018. (AP) (Le Monde) Tunisian opposition leader and founder of the Republican People's Union party Lotfi Mraïhi is arrested on suspicion of money laundering. (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections 2024 United Kingdom general election Voters elect all 650 members of the United Kingdom House of Commons. Keir Starmer's Labour Party is projected to win a landslide victory according to exit polls. (NPR) (The Washington Post) Former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is re-elected to the House of Commons as an independent MP. (The Guardian) Nigel Farage, leader of the anti-immigration and Eurosceptic Reform UK party, is elected for the first time to a parliamentary seat representing Clacton. (Reuters) Former Prime Minister Liz Truss loses her seat of South West Norfolk, becoming the first former prime minister to lose their seat in over a century since Arthur Balfour in the 1906 general election. (The Independent)

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(Posted) United Kingdom general election

Article: 2024 United Kingdom general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the United Kingdom, the Labour Party (leader Keir Starmer pictured) wins the general election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Labour Party (leader Keir Starmer pictured) wins a landslide victory in the United Kingdom general election
Alternative blurb II: ​ Keir Starmer becomes Prime Minister of the United Kingdom after his Labour Party wins a landslide victory in the general election (after he becomes PM, probably tomorrow morning)
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn09xn9je7lt
Credits:

• Nominated by orbitalbuzzsaw (talk · give credit)

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Putting this out in front so we can get it ready as and when results come in overnight This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Clearly, we're going to need sources to use the second blurb re being a landslide, though I know the exit polls suggest it will be that way. --Masem (t) 22:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  BBC says "Labour landslide predicted", as do most other sources This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Not just the BBC. Sky News, the Telegraph, the Guardian ... in fact most UK news sources ... are already using it on their front pages (although at the moment it of course says "predicted" or "expected"). But yes, stick with the original blurb, we can always change it later. Black Kite (talk) 22:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Meh. I'm not going to get worked up over it, but FWIW I don't recall the word "landslide" ever being used in an election blurb before. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  No, we rarely use such terms on the Main Page in my experience. Granted, I have been away for a while. If anything, we may choose to use a less bombastic phrasing such as "significant gain in seats", or something more British. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 00:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support original blurb. It's factual and to the point. We can update tomorrow after Sir Kier becomes PM. The votes are still being counted but there is no doubt who won. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:49, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support either original Blurb or AltBlurb II. (later purely among the implication that's part of ITN/R: that this will mean Keir Starmer becomes PM) Obviously, we'll be waiting for the official results (rather than just the exit polls) and such to make it official. Article appears to be in great shape; hopefully this quality will be maintained through all the official results being added. I'm somewhat neutral (mildly opposed) on whether we should bother describing the margin of the election. However, if there's an applicable superlative, (e.g, it break's Labour's old record for most seats won) then that would have a much more convincing argument to be mentioned on the front page. Nottheking (talk) 01:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support original blurb as it is the most concise. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support original blurb but wait until the full results come out. I don't really see much of a need for the blurb to indicate that the result was a landslide; the reader will see that immediately after going to the page. The blurb only needs to state who won the election. Gödel2200 (talk) 02:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support original blurb and wait Good article, important event. Results are pretty clear but post after the votes are fully done being counted Hungry403 (talk) 03:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I think its fair to call it a landslide now Hungry403 (talk) 04:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Sunak just conceded, effectively. Toss-up between original blurb and alt-1. Moscow Mule (talk) 03:46, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support original blurb unless the ultimate seat count surpasses Labour's old record for most seats won, in which case support alt-1 or alt-2 and add the superlative, per Nottheking. Flip^andFlopped ツ 04:08, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support original blurb as it's now official. Oppose alt blurbs until sources use the phrase "landslide" — Czello ^(music) 04:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support, with "landslide" wording; they're on course to 400, which is Blair numbers. Sceptre (talk) 04:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted As Labour has already got more than 50 per cent of the electorate seats (362 right now, with 326 needed for a majority), it's probably safe to post ALT0 at this point. I don't think it'll be long before "landslide" can be added to the blurb. Schwede66 04:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  There have been other "landslide" elections. Have we ever used that term in an election blurb? -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  Not at all. I don't think we've ever done such a thing, and the Conservatives arguably won a landslide last time. I'm a little baffled as to why Schwede66 has suggested this and strongly recommend that no admin should change this.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support ALT or ALT2 blurb as Labour has now won 400 seats, I think we're now ready to add "landslide" now. 92.27.253.187 (talk) 05:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support landslide. Davey2116 (talk) 06:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt-1 as it is more condense. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 06:48, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
• Majority would be a better word than "landslide". ITN should save the word "landslide" for the actual landslides that kill lots of people (they seem to have stopped counting in New Guinea). For elections, we should stick to words that more accurately describe the result such as supermajority. Simply winning a majority is a significant achievement when so many countries have systems that require complex coalitions such as we see in the current Netherlands blurb. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  We don't generally use the term supermajority for this, in the UK. Secretlondon (talk) 07:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  That doesn't matter because Labour don't seem to have quite that many seats (433 is two thirds of 650). The point is to use appropriate technical terms rather than colourful journalistic metaphors. In the Westminster system, the key thing is to get a "working majority". Andrew🐉(talk) 07:46, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Strong oppose landslide or majority or anything else. Longstanding precedent is that we don't attempt to add "nuance" or editorialisation to election results, even those that are "disputed" or "near-unanimous" or whatever, and there's no reason to deviate from that here. The current simple blurb that they won is completely sufficient and should not be changed.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  The convention in Britain is that a 100-seat majority is a landslide; Labour have won a 170-seat majority. If anything qualifies, this does. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 07:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  What convention? See Landslides in the United Kingdom. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  That seems a bit disingenuous, Andrew Davidson. See United Kingdom general election records#Most seats won by party (1945–present). The current result is just barely below the all-time post-war record. (though I don't see a need to change the blurb). Nfitz (talk) 21:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose landslide as an editorialising term. "Supermajority" isn't great either as the Parliament does not operate with a supermajority system as far as I know (no equivalent of, say, the 60-vote filibuster in the US Senate). Stating that Labour won a majority by themselves (and, when confirmed, that Starmer becomes PM) is the most objective thing to do. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 07:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  In the Westminster system, a substantial majority is significant because it means that the PM can force through legislation without having to appease rebels and rivals in his own party. See the US House of Representatives for the difficulty of getting things done with a narrow majority. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support - I find it funny this was nominated before any seat was even called. It might be good to mention just how historic this win is, the worst result for the Conservative Party I believe in its entire 200 year existence. This is a pretty crazy result as the dominant party in UK politics is going extinct. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  The popular vote for the Conservatives was still quite substantial while the vote for Labour was little changed. The result in seats was a typical quirk of the first-past-the-post system. The main novelty is the advent of Reform UK which got the next largest popular vote and so split the centre-right vote.

  What helped Labour is that their leader looks and sounds like a conservative -- a safe pair of hands, rather than a radical like Corbyn, a wild child like Boris or a city slicker like Rishi. It's interesting that our blurb calls him "Sir Keir Starmer", like a "knight of the shires". Andrew🐉(talk) 08:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  I see that the title has been removed now as admins tussle over the blurb. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

• Pull. While obviously this is notable, 2024_United_Kingdom_general_election#Results is not updated. 12:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC) ~~ Jessintime (talk) 12:08, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Those look like numerical results once the full complete tally is known. The results that Labour won was based on factors like sufficient tallies from the various locals as well as candidates conceding that they lost, all reported in RSes. — Masem (t) 12:19, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Jessintime There's currently 2 seats to go (out of 650), until those are declared, these "results" figures don't exist. But that doesn't change the outcome that Labour have won, a fact that was confirmed in reliable sources before this was posted. And the article has been updated with this information and aftermath, and so WP:ITNQUALITY is met. We have posted other countries in a similar state i.e. where 95+% of results are known and the election result is assured. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  Standard practice for ITN has been to post once the general outcome has been confirmed, since it's rare to instantly get total figures for every single constituent election from any country. There will always be stragglers, so yes, there will be some small gaps in the data as everyone in the world waits for those stragglers. However, it remains that all the RSes have reported that Labour has won a majority of seats, and that won't change. And Keir Starmer has already been appointed Prime Minister. Nottheking (talk) 20:29, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

  I'll just reply here since this is pretty much moot. My concern is that we posted an article on an election with an entire results table left blank. Did we really need to wait until all 650 seats were called before updating it? I've seen other stories held up for far less. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 21:04, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

July 3

Portal:Current events/2024 July 3

July 3, 2024 (2024-07-03) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign Battle of Chasiv Yar Russian forces take control of the Novy district of Chasiv Yar, Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. (CBS News) One person is killed and at least 14 others are injured in Russian guided bomb and missile attacks across Kharkiv Oblast, Ukraine. (Reuters) Russian strikes against infrastructure Dnipro strikes At least five people are killed and 53 others are injured when Russian drones and missiles hits civilian infrastructure in Dnipro, Ukraine. (BBC News) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War NATO nations agree to grant Ukraine €40 billion (US$43 billion) in military aid in 2025. (Reuters) Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant crisis Three kamikaze drones attack an electrical substation for the Russian-held Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant, injuring eight workers, causing forest fires near the plant's switchyard, and leaving Enerhodar without power or water. (Reuters) (RFE/RL) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israeli occupation of the West Bank The Israeli government approves the seizure of 12.7 square kilometres (4.9 sq mi) of Palestinian land in the Jordan Valley, representing the largest land seizure in the West Bank in more than three decades. (AP) Israel–Hezbollah conflict An Israeli strike kills Mohammed Nasser, a top commander in Hezbollah, in Tyre, Lebanon. Nasser is one of the highest-ranking Hezbollah members to die in the conflict. (Al Arabiya) Hezbollah launches a barrage of at least 100 Katyusha rockets, towards northern Israel, targeting Israeli military positions, in retaliation for the killing of Nasser. (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Five people, including former senator Hidayat Ullah, are killed when their vehicle en route to an election rally strikes a roadside bomb in Bajaur District, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (AP) Arts and culture Scientists announce the discovery of the world's oldest cave painting, depicting three people gathered around a large red pig, estimated to be at least 51,200 years old, in Leang Karampurang cave in the Maros-Pangkep region, South Sulawesi, Indonesia. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Hurricane Beryl The death toll from Hurricane Beryl in the eastern Caribbean increases to nine, with deaths reported in Grenada, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, and Venezuela. (Reuters) Four police officers are killed in floods caused by Tropical Storm Chris in Tepetlán, Mexico. (El Imparcial) 2024 India-Bangladesh floods At least sixteen people are killed and more than 300,000 others are displaced by floods and landslides in Assam and Arunachal Pradesh, India. (The Independent) Three people are killed and three others are missing after a fishing boat sinks off the coast of Marinha Grande, Portugal. (Al Arabiya) At least 26,000 people are forced to evacuate amidst dozens of large wildfires in Northern California, United States. (NPR) Health and environment Temperatures in Moscow, Russia, reach 32.7 °C (90.9 °F), the highest on this day since 1917. (The Moscow Times) (Reuters) Law and crime An Israeli soldier is killed and another is injured in a stabbing attack at a mall in Karmiel, Israel. (Reuters) Investigators in Germany and Sweden arrest eight suspects allied with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government over alleged participation in crimes against humanity in Syria. (France 24) The Supreme Court of Japan rules that the country's forced sterilization law, which was in effect from 1948 to 1996, was unconstitutional. (France 24) Sierra Leone outlaws child marriage, setting the legal age of marriage to 18 years. Offenders could face up to 15 years in prison and/or a fine of around US$4,000, with witnesses to child marriages also facing possible jail or fines. (CBS News) The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency fines General Motors $145.8 million for excess emissions found in 5.9 million GM vehicles. (Reuters) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war protests Pro-Palestinian protesters climb the roof of the Australian Parliament building in Canberra, Australia. (Al Jazeera)

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RD: Jack Rowell

Article: Jack Rowell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs an infobox but only a few more citations. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose There are CN tags. User:MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose multiple cn tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 07:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose issue persists. Bremps... 22:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Mark Cavendish

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Article: Mark Cavendish (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ British cyclist Mark Cavendish wins a record 35th stage of the Tour de France (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport Guardian USA Today ESPN NBC NEWS WSJ
Credits:

• Nominated by Paul W (talk · give credit)

Paul W (talk) 20:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Cool sports trivia, but not what is typically posted at ITN. Natg 19 (talk) 20:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The result of the Tour de France is ITN/R, but individual achievements are way under the bar for notability. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Aficionados regard the result of the Tour de France as much more then the first person to crosss the finish line, but the non-cycling world is generally ignorant of such detail. So sadly, I agree. HiLo48 (talk) 07:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Neutral Probably under the bar as a stand-alone entry. However, given it’s broken a 49 year old record would suggest it’s mentioned at race summary e.g. “In the 2024 Tour de France, Joe Bloggs wins the General Classification, while Mark Cavendish breaks the record for stage wins” 92.17.186.116 (talk) 22:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Agree The tour isn't over and he could win a 36th or 37th, and at the conclusion of the race that number can be announced as part of the blurb. Kcmastrpc (talk) 22:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

  Also agree, solid suggestion. Kingsif (talk) 11:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Support It's a monumental achievement that has taken 50 years to break. It's not trivia. There's often major records on ITN, sports or otherwise (longest person in space etc) Torqueing (talk) 23:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Trivia, Better suited to DYK.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:16, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

  It can't go on DYK, the article is already a GA and is too long to be expanded fivefold. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose While an impressive achievement, the fact there are only a few sentences of an update on each of the linked articles means that this is not suitable for ITN. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Per above. While its impressive that he broke a near 50 year old record, these kinds of personal achievements aren't notable enough for the ITN. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 02:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Support. This is a huge 49 years old record, and yes it's newsworthy. Eddy Merckx should be mention in the blurb too. Mark Cavendish breaks Eddy Merckx’s 49-years-old record for most career Tour de France stage wins with 35th victory. - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 06:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose, while impressive, this still counts as sports trivia in view of ITN. For TDF, we post the winner. --Tone 07:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support a record that has stood for a long time being broken, and a target article Mark Cavendish that's a GA. This is more in the news than the eventual TdF winners usually are (because it's a record that has stood for nearly 50 years that was thought unbreakable for most of that time), and that article is nowhere near the quality of Cavendish's article either. Monumental achievement with worldwide coverage, which is higher enough to meet the threshold of WP:ITNSIGNIF. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Strong oppose Winning a stage in a multiple-day cycling race has absolutely no meaning. One may not win a single stage but eventually win the race. I don't see a reason to post a meaningless record. If it were a record set at one-day classics, it'd be a much stronger argument for posting, but it's clearly not. Note also that he's not finished half of the Tour de France editions he entered and was ranked well below 100th place in all editions he finished, so it's completely worthless to talk about any notable record here.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  He's a sprinter, and they often don't complete all three weeks, different physiology. Where he finishes in the general classification is a complete irrelevance. Ericoides (talk) 12:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  That's why one-day classics exist – to make sprinters more competitive. A sprinter breaking a record in a race that he can barely finish is completely irrelevant.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  To claim "Winning a stage in a multiple-day cycling race has absolutely no meaning" suggests you have absolutely no understanding of cycling. See today's L'Equipe, which only devotes seven pages to the Cavendish record. Ericoides (talk) 13:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Indeed. I'm not personally supporting this item as of sufficient encyclopaedic interest for ITN, but the achievement itself certainly isn't insignificant. Stage wins on the Tour de France are a big deal and treated as such in reliable sources. Wikipedians' opinions on their relevance is what's "meaningless" here.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Ericoides: I’ve been avidly following cycling about 18 years now, and that’s why I know that this record isn’t significant at all. In multiple-day cycling races, time is what counts, not the number of stage wins. You may say whatever you want about my understanding of cycling and cite zillion sources stating that this is a big achievement, but that won’t change the established fact that these stage victories won’t help Cavendish ever win Tour de France. This record is trivial as Ronnie O’Sullivan’s 1,000 century breaks achieved in 2019 or LeBron James breaking Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s long-standing record for most points in the NBA.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 16:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  He's not trying to win the Tour; it's an event within an event. As David Millar said in his ITV commentary this afternoon, "the Tour de France is the world championships for sprinters." Ericoides (talk) 19:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - This is trivia. Winning a record number of tours would be worth mentioning in the tour result post (which is, as noted, ITNR), but this is a mere footnote. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Per all above. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose minor sports trivia. An impressive personal achievement but we can't post every similar record in every sport. When the race concludes, the winner can be posted per WP:ITNR. I recommend you work on improving the 2024 Tour de France article so that will be ready to go e.g. by adding prose summaries of each stage. Modest Genius ^talk 11:49, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support An amazing achievement, transcending the sport. Ericoides (talk) 12:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Dismissing this as trivia is absolute rubbish. The most notable cycling sporting event in the world has had a longstanding record broken that will go unchallenged for a very long time. The closest competitor to challenge his record is Tadej Pogačar who only has 12 stage wins at the moment. Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Final note, after searching the archives I found numerous examples of prior posting of notable sports records being broken, so I don't see how there isn't precedence for posting this in some form or another. Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Records based on competing and winning (or whatever the aspect) a number of times, which the chances of improving simply increase with the person participating in more events, are records that are ripe to be broken and not really fair. More approach records that would make sense are breaking race times or other measurable factors in a competitive sport, or achieving a certain type of scoring record within a single game and/or season. But as others have said, when the race is done and we post the result (per ITNR), it makes sense to possibly include this record too. — Masem (t) 16:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Strong oppose I guess you had to be there. Call back when someone actually wins the race. CoatCheck (talk) 21:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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(Closed) 2024 Ukrainian coup attempt allegations

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Article: 2024 Ukrainian coup attempt allegations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An alleged pro-Russian coup is foiled by the Security Service of Ukraine that sought to oust Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Scu ba (talk · give credit)

I noticed that nobody was talking about a foiled coup yesterday in Ukraine that major news outlets are talking about so I decided to make a page for it, I feel that this is just as notable as any other coup and should be included in the news. Scu ba (talk) 00:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Huh. A quite worrying development of the ongoing war, but the (alleged) coup wasn't actually attempted, so oppose on notability. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 00:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Sadly oppose per above. poor zelenskyy Ion.want.uu (talk) 14:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose There have been a few assassination plots targeting the president as well over the past 2 years. And I believe there was a coup plot foiled shortly before the war. So unless something is at least attempted, like in Bolivia, I don't think it's worth posting. Scaramouche33 (talk) 05:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose respectfully. It seems like this was simply the arrest of four alleged Russophilic activists who were discussing a coup plot via instant messages. An actual attempted coup that could pose a real threat to Zelenskyy would definitely be notable, but an alleged coup plot that had already failed before anything could have even been attempted is not big enough to warrant a separate blurb for an event already covered in Ongoing.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 12:01, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose This would only not be covered by ongoing if the coup had actually happened. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Vanilla Wizard. I'm not convinced this is notable enough for a stand-alone article, let alone ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 14:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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July 2

Portal:Current events/2024 July 2

July 2, 2024 (2024-07-02) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Accusations of United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Israel–Hamas war A dozen resigned United States government officials release a joint statement denouncing President Joe Biden's administration for its "undeniable complicity" in war crimes against Palestinian civilians by violating U.S. laws to continue sending Israel weapons. (Reuters) Siege of Khan Yunis An Israeli airstrike kills at least nine people in Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip, hours after Israel ordered a mass evacuation of parts of the city. (AP) Russian invasion of Ukraine Two people are killed and nine others are injured when Russian artillery and drones hit Nikopol in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, Ukraine. (Reuters) (Ukrinform) Kazakh dissident Aydos Sadykov has died two weeks after being shot outside his home in Kyiv, Ukraine. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2024 Atlantic hurricane season One person is killed in a landslide caused by Tropical Storm Chris in San Salvador, El Salvador. (Expreso Mexico) 2024 Uttar Pradesh stampede 123 people are killed in a stampede at a religious gathering in Hathras, Uttar Pradesh, India. (India Today) (Hindustan Times) Kobayashi red yeast rice scandal Seventy-six more deaths and at least 500 hospitalizations in Japan are linked to use of red yeast rice supplements distributed by Kobayashi Pharmaceutical, causing kidney disease and other severe conditions. (Asahi TV) Floods in northern Myanmar trap thousands of people in their homes and cause power outages and disruptions to telephone services. (Barron's) International relations Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Hungary–Ukraine relations, 2024 peace missions by Viktor Orbán Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán visits Kyiv, Ukraine, for the first time since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, proposing a ceasefire plan which is rejected by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. (Kyiv Independent) Panama–United States relations Panama and the United States sign a deal to reduce the flow of illegal immigration to the southern United States border through the Darién Gap, with the United States covering the costs of repatriating migrants who enter Panama illegally. (DW) Law and crime Islamic terrorism in Europe Terrorism in the United Kingdom St James's University Hospital nursing assistant Mohammad Farooq is convicted at Sheffield Crown Court of crimes relating to plotting lone wolf attacks on RAF Menwith Hill in North Yorkshire and his Leeds workplace. (BBC News) Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election Former New York City Mayor and lawyer Rudy Giuliani is disbarred in the U.S. state of New York for his efforts in attempting to overturn the 2020 election. (AP) Australia issues statements to several social media and search engine websites ordering the websites to draft and enforce guidelines to prevent minors from seeing inappropriate material before October 3 or face national restrictions. (Reuters) The United States Department of Homeland Security deports 116 Chinese migrants back to China to deter illegal migration across the Mexico–United States border, representing the nation's first "large charter flight" deportation in the past five years. (AP) Serial killer Lucy Letby is convicted of an attempted murder in a retrial at Manchester Crown Court in Manchester, England. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2023–2024 Dutch cabinet formation In the Netherlands, the Schoof cabinet is installed with Dick Schoof taking office as the new prime minister. (Rijksoverheid) (BBC News) 2023–2024 Georgian protests Protestors march in Tbilisi surrounding the Parliament Building in protest of the Georgian Dream party, the law on foreign agents, and in support of Georgia joining the EU. (Al Jazeera) Kenya Finance Bill protests Protests against the controversially rejected Kenyan finance bill and President William Ruto continue in major cities in the country, with the National Commission on Human Rights reporting at least 39 people killed and 361 injured in the protests. (Al Jazeera) Science and technology The fifth busy beaver number is confirmed to be 47,176,870. (Quanta)

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(Posted) RD: Rick Cluff

Article: Rick Cluff (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Globe and Mail
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Connormah (talk · give credit), HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk · give credit) and Classicwiki (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Canadian Radio host and journalist. Ktin (talk) 14:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support Article quality seems alright. Bremps... 20:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 02:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jean Daubigny

Article: Jean Daubigny (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): L'Union
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Jmanlucas (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit) and Editrite! (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

French civil servant and criminal convicted of tax evasion. Jmanlucas (talk) 05:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Support meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 07:57, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

It has a deprecated controversy section. Probably not postable as is. Bremps... 20:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Aydos Sadykov

Article: Aydos Sadykov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Gödel2200 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Kazakh opposition figure who died after an assassination attempt in Kyiv. Article will need some sourcing work. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose One of the sections does not cite any sources. Needs ref improve. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 17:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support I've fixed the last of the CN tags and it appears the page is very well sourced now. I'll ping @MAL MALDIVE to see if they would like to change their opinion. Jmanlucas (talk) 01:59, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support Yes, after the fix, i would support. Looks like the article is in a good standard. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 04:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose biography section have some unsourced statements. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 07:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) BB(5) discovery

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Article: Busy beaver (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In computer science, researchers discover the fifth Busy beaver number. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A group of mathematical researchers announces the discovery of the fifth Busy beaver number.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The fifth Busy beaver number is discovered, establishing a new quantitative limit on the behavior of small computer programs.
News source(s): Quanta Magazine , Shtetl-Optimized
Credits:

• Nominated by Schoen (talk · give credit)

I guess the article needs work to be understandable to non-experts and should highlight more about the new discovery, but I think this is a big deal for computer science and mathematics. It's been 41 years since progress was made on this problem, it closely relates to the limits of mathematical knowledge and mathematical proof, it was a big online volunteer collaboration over several years, and it's one of the first new mathematical results to be formalized in a proof assistant contemporaneously with its announcement (which helped other mathematicians be more confident more quickly that the result was correct). It's also very likely the largest Busy Beaver number that humanity will ever be able to discover. So this is potentially the only progress on this problem that Wikipedia will ever be able to announce! Schoen (talk) 23:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support just beat me too it! Big thing in computer science tho Ion.want.uu (talk) 23:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Wow! Didn't follow it too closely, I'm surprised it was actually discovered. Science at ITN is always great, and, as Schoen says, this is likely the largest Busy Beaver number we'll be able to discover (for two-state Turing machines at least). Not only does the state space grow very fast, but these numbers are inherently uncomputable, meaning you can't just throw more computing power to find them, you need to go through mathematical proofs for each Turing machine. By the way, for anyone curious, the number is 47 176 870. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

  A lower bound on the sixth Busy Beaver number is 10⇈15, or 10^{10...15 times...10}. Needless to say, we don't have enough space in this universe to even write it down. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose primary because the target article is terribly undersourced and is the symptom of being far too technical for an encyclopedia. Besides that, I'd like to see at least either a peer-review article or a more mainstream news source covering this, because as the Quantum article points out, this is more a curiosity than a breakthrough in mathematics. --Masem (t) 02:00, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose This does not seem to be in the news. For comparison, I can easily show you more mainstream coverage of real beavers in my area of London (a project that I helped with myself). Andrew🐉(talk) 07:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Target article is extremely poorly sourced (indeed, the main paragraph explaining it has precisely zero sources) and is not written in anything like an accessible manner; we do not expect technical articles to be dumbed down but even the introduction to this article makes assumptions that the reader knows what a halting Turing machine, its "states", or transition tables are. It is unfortunate that a lot of computer science articles are like this. Black Kite (talk) 09:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support in principle, but unfortunately the article is nearly fully unsourced, and is nowhere near being ready for the main page. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. While I'm open to posting mathematical advances, there are multiple problems with this: a) The topic is extremely esoteric and doesn't seem to have any application - the 'applications' section of the article speculates about uses in principle but indicates they are all impossible in practice. b) The fifth BB number has been known since 1990, but was only conjectured not proven [2]. While proving it now is useful, it's hardly a surprise. c) There is no formal publication of this result. The team's own website announcement [3] states "we are currently working on a human-readable paper" i.e. it hasn't been written up yet, let alone peer reviewed. A peer-reviewed publication is a requirement for posting scientific news. d) There's little to no coverage in mainstream media, I couldn't find anything beyond that Quanta article. e) The article is incomprehensible to most of our readers, who would not learn anything from clicking on that bold link. So while I commend the nomination, I don't think this is suitable for ITN. Modest Genius ^talk 19:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability. There should be more news like this in encyclopedia on the front page. BilboBeggins (talk) 19:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

  Except that it's notability is questionable as the only independent source I've seen is the linked quantum magazine article. That fails the actual "ITN" part. — Masem (t) 22:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per all above. Poorly-sourced article that doesn't explain why these numbers matter (certainly not to an extent remotely close to establishing main page notability), and if my bachelor's in mathematics is not nearly enough to comprehend the article, main page readers don't have a chance. -- Kicking222 (talk) 21:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

  It's not hard: I'm in the middle of an infinite coin row (all heads up). I read card 1 of 5. The heads up side says "1. leave tails up" "2. look to its immediate right" "3. do card 2 to it". Card 2-Heads is the same except 3. is "do card 3". Card 3-Heads is the same except 3. is "do card 4". Card 4-Heads says "1. leave tails up" "2. immediate left" "3. card 1". Card 5-Heads says tails/right/END. 1-Tails says tails/left/3 2-Tails says tails/right/2. 3-Tails is heads/left/5. 4-Tails is tails/left/4 5-Tails is heads/left/1. They just proved that you need ≥6 cards to end @ over 4,098 tails or after step 47,176,870 and these are the best possible cards. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 05:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  I agree that it's pretty easy to describe how to emulate the five-state Beaver. But in order for someone to care a lot about the behavior of these "cards", we might also want to connect this to "this is one of the purest ways to model and reason about what computers do, and what computers can potentially do". And indeed "the cards can do math, potentially as well as any other system can do math". Or maybe "computer programs' behavior is complex and hard to predict, in a very fundamental mathematical sense; people have now managed to fully analyze the behavior of some small computer programs, which was extremely difficult, and there's good reason to think humanity will never make it to the next step of fully analyzing the behavior of very slightly larger computer programs". Schoen (talk) 06:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I apologize if my reasons are short sighted, I know next to nothing about computer science. The article is very hard to understand for the average reader, and I fail to see how this discovery is used outside of the problem itself. Also missing citations Hungry403 (talk) 03:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - While the Busy Beaver problem is important in computability theory, and the discovery of a new member in a short and hard-to-determine sequence is very interesting, the combination of the two does not have any wider consequences. The discovery of BB(5) doesn't actually advance computability theory at all, and the number itself has no immediate wider applications. I also think the target article lacks a clear explanation for non-specialists, and is overall not ready for the home page. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Legendary sports competitor breaks a nearly 50 year longstanding record is largely opposed as trivia, but this isn't? Absurd. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Not saying that this is the way things should be, but I don't think it should be a surprise that Wikipedia is more nerd than jock. Bremps... 19:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) Dick Schoof (Netherlands PM)

Article: Dick Schoof (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Dick Schoof becomes Prime Minister of the Netherlands. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Dick Schoof is sworn in as Prime Minister of the Netherlands.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In the Netherlands, a new cabinet is sworn in with independent politician Dick Schoof serving as prime minister.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In the Netherlands, Dick Schoof succeeds four-term prime minister Mark Rutte.
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Classicwiki (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jochem van Hees (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

One interesting thing about this succession is that Schoof is not part of the coalition party. Mark Rutte was PM for 13+ years, will serve as the next SG of NATO (1 October), which was just made official on 26 June. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 19:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support It's interesting that he's not just not a member of the coalition parties but that he's not an elected politician. Instead, he's a civil servant and previously in charge of the security service. Deep state needs a section for the Netherlands... Andrew🐉(talk) 21:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support change of head of government is ITN/R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Support because he succeeded 13-year incumbent Mark Rutte, and this concludes government appointment from the November 2023 Dutch election. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• support blurb II article seems okay and new prime minister after 14 years.. Shadow4dark (talk) 03:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Link it to the election. Doesn't have to be bold, but it's obviously correlated. Not with rutte at nato too.49.205.145.3 (talk) 09:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support alt2 and the article seems to be of decent quality. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted ALT2. Schwede66 00:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Uttar Pradesh stampede

Article: 2024 Uttar Pradesh stampede (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 121 people are killed in a stampede during a religious event in Uttar Pradesh, India. (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Estreyeria (talk · give credit)

Article will need some work before it's ready. Estreyeria (talk) 13:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• Agree once the article is expanded. Sheila1988 (talk) 14:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support but wait until the event is over and all information has been reported on. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 14:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support when ready death toll is quite high but article needs a lot of expansion before it is ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 15:57, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. This could have some form of widespread significance, but we don't know that right now, so we can't support based on that. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The article needs work to be as clear as the NYT report. That says that such events are "relatively common" and so WP:NEWSEVENT applies. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Large number of causalities, and injured. A significant event, not a common occurrencee. Now reached to 121 deaths. TheHindu report. Numancia (talk) 08:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Significant event, with very high number of casualties. Similar to Hajj incident recently. Samuelled (talk) 14:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Big news, article is decent quality Poxy4 (talk) 17:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Tragic accident with a high number of deaths. Article structure looks good enough. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 22:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

  What evidence do you have that it was accidental? RS are calling it a disaster and some have been arrested already. We've got to be careful with that word. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 20:59, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose While this event has a high number of casualties, the article gives no indication of lasting significance. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 00:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  Post-posting support how often do we update the death toll of disasters? The main page still says 110, while RS says it has risen to 121. Bremps... 17:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

  ITN is still technically correct, as it says at least 110. Admins do update death tolls, but I do not expect them to keep track of daily changes. Natg 19 (talk) 17:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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