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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

Hamad City

... that Hamad City in Gaza was largely destroyed within minutes?

This supposed fact is not clearly stated in the article. The nomination indicates that it's referring to airstrikes in December 2023. It appears that about 5 apartment blocks were destroyed on that occasion but the complex had about 50 and so was not "largely destroyed". Most of it must have remained because there was a subsequent Battle of Hamad in which 100 buildings were cleared and that took two weeks. A source from that article has photos which seem to show intact apartment blocks still standing at that time – March 2024. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

@DYK admins: This should be pulled immediately. Spreading disinformation about the Israel-Hamas war is not a good look. It appears that the nominator Havradim noticed the mistake and offered a corrected hook [1], but Lightburst rejected this and approved the original. I wouldn't recommend a hasty swapping out of hooks though; ALT0a should get a proper review before being used. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 07:19, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Note that the nominator effectively identified the issue as they proposed a modification to the hook based on a "closer reading". That modification was rejected and it is surprising that the unmodified hook was then run as it was clearly erroneous. (edit conflict) Andrew🐉(talk) 07:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

 Pulled. Yes, this seems to have been a basic fact checking error, the article text (and the source) don't say what the hook says at all. The reviewer noted that there was a slight inaccuracy between the five airstrikes reported, and the five buildings mentioned in ALT0a, but then went back and approved ALT0, which the nominator had already noted did not match the sourcing, after reviewing again. I'd think as Soujourner says, maybe a modified version of ALT0a matching the wording used in the article would be best here. If this doesn't get reinstated today, I'd suggest giving the nom another chance another day, as I don't think the nominator was at fault for this. Also pinging @SL93 and Z1720: too, as promoter and admin. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 07:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for acknowledging my efforts to get everything right. How about if we simply edit the hook to read "... that Hamad City in Gaza was largely destroyed within minutes during the Israel–Hamas war?" It's not as if there exists any doubt that the neighbourhood was in fact largely destroyed, correct? If anyone is really not sure about this, I encourage them to watch the embedded videos in this link. Maha Thaer, a resident of Hamad who is quoted in the article, said that "We don't have a city any more, only rubble. There is absolutely nothing left ... There were no walls or windows. Most of the towers were completely blown up." [2] Havradim leaf a message 10:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

No, this is not a definite fact. The reporting in March has a quote "This neighborhood looks nice..." There was then more fighting and devastation but now it appears that residents like Maha Thaer are returning and taking stock. The war is still ongoing and so we don't have a conclusion yet. Viewing videos to form a provisional conclusion would be original research from primary sources. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, Thaer did say that most of the towers were completely blown up. But if we cannot take her word for it, how about – "... that Hamad City was turned into ruins as a result of the Israel–Hamas war?" Quote: "Hamas senior officials and their families moved into this new and opulent neighborhood, which then turned into ruins after the IDF entered as part of the ground operation to dismantle Hamas terror infrastructure in the area." [3] (added to the article) Havradim leaf a message 12:06, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

David Marchese

Doesn't the David Marchese hook break WP:DYKBLP? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I would say no considering David Marchese was open about that during an interview. SL93 (talk) 02:40, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

While I don't doubt that it is sourced, WP:DYKBLP is a higher criterion than regular WP:BLP: Hooks that unduly focus on negative aspects of living persons should be avoided. (emphasis not mine) Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's "unduly" when the subject doesn't make anything of it. Pinging nominator Spaghettifier, reviewer UndercoverClassicist, promoter Sohom Datta, and prep to queue mover Z1720. SL93 (talk) 02:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I also don't think it's undue nor does it really reflect negatively on Marchese. It's a lighthearted mistake from long ago that he volunteered in good humor for a podcast segment devoted to mistakes. It's not like the hook accuses him of committing malpractice. Spaghettifier (talk) 03:06, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Exactly my thoughts, the podcast very much gives of the vibes of a humorous anecdote rather than a "I don't want to talk about this ever again". Also, the hook makes it very clear that this incident was a accident and not a intentional act, making it hard to misinterpret as a deliberate negative action. Sohom (talk) 03:17, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done There's consensus that this is not an error. Schwede66 05:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Next-but-one DYK

In the second hook, why not put the appropriate quotes around "Lunch"? It would have the added benefit of making the hook funny. Primergrey (talk) 02:17, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

@PSA, Launchballer, Sohom Datta, and Ganesha811: thoughts on this hook suggestion? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I have no objection if the nominator approves. —Ganesha811 (talk) 02:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Same here :) Sohom (talk) 03:01, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Fine by me.--Launchballer 03:36, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

• 1985 – Ryan White, a poster child for HIV/AIDS in the U.S., was denied re-admission to his school, having developed the disease due to treatment for hemophilia.
  This seem doubly badly worded to me. I have no idea what "poster child for HIV/AIDS in the U.S." means and "due to" sounds like the wrong word choice as well. "Through"? Srnec (talk) 04:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

  "Ryan White, a famous HIV/AIDS patient in the U.S., was denied re-admission to his school as he had contracted the disease from hemophilia treatments"? Does that work? Bremps... 05:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

  I'd replaced "as he had" with "after he", but yes, it works. Srnec (talk) 05:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

   Done – Schwede66 05:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

  Famous is POV, removed that. Stephen 11:08, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

• 1934 – Adolf – German chancellor Adolf Hitler began a purge ... — As a formal title preceding the name without intervening punct., "Chancellor" should be capped. – Sca (talk) 12:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

  "German chancellor Adolf Hitler" is correct, see "US president Richard Nixon" at MOS:JOBTITLE. TSventon (talk) 13:14, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

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