Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music

Adding a new page on WikiProject Music

Hello, can anybody help me add https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jolyon_Petch to this group?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ainamera22 (talk • contribs) 01:26, July 17, 2021 (UTC)

All female bands

Why do we categorise bands with all female members as "all female" while never categorising bands with all male members as "all male" or bands with a mix of member genders as "mixed gender"? Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 12:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a problem--cat should be deleted, in my opinion. Caro7200 (talk) 12:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One is probably considered WP:DEFINING, the other not. There are many scenarios where we we don't have "equivalent" categories like that, for that very reason. Sergecross73 msg me 13:02, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding this. I'm sure if you search the bands in Category:All-female bands, you'll find a lot of results using that exact phrase. And, as CATGENDER says, certain categories don't need to be balanced against an equivalent. Separating categories by gender is standard Wikipedia practice now, and this falls well within those terms, so I see no issue here. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Serge for the useful link. I may, if I ever have the energy, wade through some of them and see if it's sources or us defining them. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 22:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But there is Category:Mixed-gender bands. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 04:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Best of Kris Kross Remixed '92 '94 '96

I couldn't find any sources for Best of Kris Kross Remixed '92 '94 '96 whatsoever, and I don't think it's even an official album, as it doesn't even have an entry on AllMusic. Jax 0677 (talk · contribs) is being a bit unusual about sourcing, claiming that Kris Kross needs a source to prove the album exists even though it has an article. (I cannot wrap my brain around the concept of "Article A needs a source to prove that the subject of Article B exists.") I could only find Discogs, Genius, and other user generated sources for it, and no mentions of it in reliable sources like Billboard. I personally think it should be sent to AFD for lack of verifiability and being an unlikely redirect/merge term due to its seemingly unofficial nature, but as I am topic banned from XFD I cannot do it myself and leave it to others to decide. Pinging @Binksternet:, @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars:, and @Koavf:, all of whom have edited the article. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 03:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've found the album listed in three books: [1], [2] and [3]. It definitely exists though I am doubtful it should have it's own article. I'll add these sources to the Kris Kross article. Vladimir.copic (talk) 03:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still not convinced it's notable. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From my search I would probably agree with you that it isn't notable enough for a standalone article. But, in your initial comment you were saying that the album isn't "official" and cannt be verified. I've provided three high quality sources verifying the album exists and is "official" (whatever this means). (Also an album's "officialness" doesn't affect its notability.) Vladimir.copic (talk) 05:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a lack of sources, so it's appropriate to redirect and keep the categories. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with this and have gone ahead and boldly redirected. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 06:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing lists of works

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lists of works regarding sourcing lists of works. The thread is Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Lists_of_works#Are_references_required_for_lists_of_works?. Thank you. Vladimir.copic (talk) 00:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on the reliability of Mixdown (the Australian magazine) at RSN

There is a discussion on the reliability of Mixdown at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. Any input would be helpful, the thread is WP:RSN#Mixdown (music website). -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 12:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FAR

I have nominated The Supremes for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 23:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

American Pie (film) soundtrack

Hi all, I'm working on improving this article and someone has added a large amount of unsourced information about the soundtrack. I do believe the soundtrack itself is notable, it was filled with lots of mainstream hits, so I was wondering if someone could take a look and maybe consider if it could be split off into it's own article? Soundtrack articles aren't my area of expertise and I'd prefer to focus on the film side of things if possible. TIA Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The album reached #50 on the Billboard 200 and was reviewed, e.g., at [4]. It almost surely merits its own article. Chubbles (talk) 04:21, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's great, if anyone would be willing to split that section off it would be much appreciated. Or I can split it off if someone else would be able to bring it up to standard as I don't know what's expected in those. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 17:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't got a chance to look into this, but it should at least be said that while notability is there, with just those two sources you've probably got just barely above a stub at best. More coverage should be found before anyone tries to make the article based on that alone, or else the split will have been entirely pointless. And even then, who's to say it needs to be split? I would suggest expanding the section with new sources first, and then assessing its size impact after to decide if the split is necessary. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 17:18, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple level merge

I am proposing that Rubén Valtierra, Steve Jay, and Jon Schwartz (drummer) all be AFD'd or merged/redirected to "Weird Al" Yankovic. They have been unsourced since 2007, 2011, and 2012, respectively, with zero improvement and marginal notability outside membership in Weird Al's band. Please see Talk:"Weird Al" Yankovic. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:02, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup of Glen Campbell discography

Glen Campbell discography is clogged with a ton of budget-line, non-notable compilations, most of which actually have articles. I think some mass purging is needed here to AFD the non-notable ones, including everything in the collapsible list below. Many of them IMO don't even warrant redirect; for instance, Southern Nights/Basic is just a budget-line reissue of two existing albums on the same disc, and most of the Curb Records releases are cheap re-recordings. I don't think any of the Koala Records releases are even official either, as every other Koala album I've ever encountered is a bootleg. Some of these articles have existed since 2008 and have never had a source attached.

Tagging @Martin4647:, @Caldorwards4:, @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars:, @Derek R Bullamore:, @Mr. C.C.:, @Lumdeloo: to assist in trimming the fat here.

Extended content

Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the invite, but I must decline. Campbell's work is well outside my areas of interest, plus I am busy with non-Wikipedia stuff (mostly) until the beginning of October. You may need to look elsewhere. Sorry. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:26, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening TenPoundHammer, I agree that there is some fat to be trimmed. But I’m afraid you also deleted some official releases which should be included. Also, some of the compilation albums are not actually compilation albums as such. They contain previously unreleased material that was released by companies who owned it. They cannot exactly count as official releases but should be mentioned somewhere (some of them are notable enough to justify their own article as well). Lumdeloo (talk) 19:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have restores the live albums and album appearance sections for now. I will double check for releases that can be omitted. The compilations albums I will go through manually. Lumdeloo (talk) 19:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]